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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:27 am    Post subject: tunnels in sand? Reply with quote

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Had a thought, (strange i know!) would it be possible to dig tunnels through sand?
I know that the co-hesion between the granuals is very weak thus totaly the wrong medium to use but... what if the digging machine had a ring of superheated material around it thus turning the sand to glass. would it then be stable enough to hold its own weight or would you need to reiforce it with concreate?
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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that depends how deep you dig.
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Would need to be extraordinarily hot. Though sands are made up a wide range of materials, as an example, silicons melting point is more than 2500 degree F.
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Had a thought, (strange i know!) would it be possible to dig tunnels through sand?


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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well i wasnt going to say anything but i have been watching the great escape a few times, anyone got a couple of spare nazi uniforms i could borrow?
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It might be easier to impregnate the sand with a resin or something that will set in to something hard, then tunnel through that. Easier still would be using supports of some kind from the start.
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So it is possible?

But i imagine that the costs involved would make it prohibitive. Unless you could perfect the tecnique for a good price, you would make a killing
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/buildingbig/tunnel/challenge/sand/index.html
http://science.howstuffworks.com/tunnel3.htm
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Since ~80% of concrete's bulk is sand & gravel (plus water) you could have most materials on site - I mean right there at the end of the tunnel.

Idea I imagine logistics and transport costs being much reduced if the concrete factory creeps along just behind the digger, using much of the excavated material.

A range of aggregate sizes lock up most densely. They must be washed. Many tunnels have to pump out water anyway, which of course is pure as well water so just fine for the task at hand. Add a little cement powder and mix. That's it!
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