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| theQuestIsNotOver |
 Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject: risk and experiment |
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Is there any risk associated with creating near big-bang conditions in an experiment?
If anyone found out I was trying to create a near "big-bang" condition, they would report me to the anti-terrorism authorities.
Why do the French get off so easily? They actually don't know what they are doing. They state that "many theories" exist for what could happen by their CERN Hadron research adventures. Little scary, right? Near "big bang" conditions?
The "big bang", as the theory goes, was a chain reaction. What's to say these giants of opinion aren't trying to start a chain reaction that won't stop?
If they succeed, according to their theories of space-time, there would be a momentary state of pure energy followed by the resolution of the known laws of space-time. But that momentary state of pure energy could technically be enough to "zap" everything, which, well, if you are a ghost, that could be fun........
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| Scifor Refugee |
| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: risk and experiment |
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| You'll notice that all the people with actual training in physics think that it's safe, while all the people who think it's unsafe don't have any training in physics. Why so you think that is? |
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And, as explained many times before, considerably larger amounts of energy are reacting in the space around our planet, yet we are still here after billions of years. Of course though, you could say that (besides those caused by religion) one of the massive population bottlenecks in our history was caused by a high energy particle reaction in the atmosphere.
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| William McCormick |
| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: risk and experiment |
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| Scifor Refugee wrote: |
| You'll notice that all the people with actual training in physics think that it's safe, while all the people who think it's unsafe don't have any training in physics. Why so you think that is? |
The only thing scary is that, there was no big bang. Bangs take things apart.
I do not know, what kind of experiment they are doing or the equipment or supplies they have on site. However a well equipped lab or industrial test center would probably have liquefied gases in quantity.
There is no chain reaction unless you feed a very hot radio active source, a continuous supply of certain chemicals. It would be very hard to do even with the combined efforts of all. You cannot breath in these fumes to long.
But you could easily poison earths atmosphere, and setup a condition where a secondary explosion in a radio active cloud wiped out earth.
They could easily create an electrical pulse that could wipe out, most of the equipment on earth. Or egg shape the earth. That was always a concern when liquefied gases are involved. Especially in the presence of extreme magnetic/radio fields.
That is why I believe all of our law makers should be put to sleep, for hiding the senselessness of radio active isotopes to make power. All the accidents were foretold before they happened. We have all the power anyone can ever dream of.
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: risk and experiment |
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| William McCormick wrote: |
| That is why I believe all of our law makers should be put to sleep, for hiding the senselessness of radio active isotopes to make power. All the accidents were foretold before they happened. We have all the power anyone can ever dream of. |
I thought you said isotopes did not exist?
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"They could easily create an electrical pulse that could wipe out, most of the equipment on earth. Or egg shape the earth."
Did you seriously just say that? Egg shape the earth? Please tell me that is a phrase I am not familiar with and it should not be taken literally.
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: risk and experiment |
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| Edmund wrote: |
| William McCormick wrote: |
| That is why I believe all of our law makers should be put to sleep, for hiding the senselessness of radio active isotopes to make power. All the accidents were foretold before they happened. We have all the power anyone can ever dream of. |
I thought you said isotopes did not exist? |
I defined what they were, with a link. And really what they still are.
Click on the image to view it at its original size
When you get radiation from lower elements, they are just contaminated with these higher radioactive isotopes.
How did you come to the conclusion that I said isotopes do not exist?
I have noticed that a lot of individuals on this forum have a problem comprehending what they read. It is the definitions. They are very poor today. Not really the individuals fault.
The individual was built as a perfect calculating instrument. Poor input is the only thing that can cause a fault.
However I have also noticed that most do not even bother to check the definitions of particles and theories, that they back with their dignity and good name. If they did, particle science might just be that funny time, much like when some of my generation took mushrooms and defecated all over themselves.
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"They could easily create an electrical pulse that could wipe out, most of the equipment on earth. Or egg shape the earth."
Did you seriously just say that? Egg shape the earth? Please tell me that is a phrase I am not familiar with and it should not be taken literally. |
That is what I was taught, by the best in multiple fields. From local defense plant experts, and from Universal Scientists.
And I have done some of my own testing. Which makes an outstanding case for this.
It has to do with liquid nitrogen and its Siamese bond. That causes one atom of nitrogen to take on some of the properties of carbon. Liquid carbon can polarize so fast that it can have severe effects. And can distort the earths stability.
Stability and continuing creation, that is caused by the ambient radiation, exteriorly. At least according to my teachings and learnings.
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| You claimed that isotopes did not exist in a previous thread and that they were merely contaminants which we have 'lost the skill to isolate and remove'. |
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 12:12 am Post subject: Re: risk and experiment |
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| Scifor Refugee wrote: |
| You'll notice that all the people with actual training in physics think that it's safe, while all the people who think it's unsafe don't have any training in physics. Why so you think that is? |
Is that why CERN have watered down their promotion of the Hadron experiment?
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| You claimed that isotopes did not exist in a previous thread and that they were merely contaminants which we have 'lost the skill to isolate and remove'. |
I stated that lower elements, being referred to as radio active isotopes, because they are radio active. Do not exist.
The lower elements are not radio active isotopes, they are not variations of lower elements. They just have contaminants of large radio active isotopes, in them.
However as radio active isotopes were originally found and documented, they were only the higher larger radio active elements. Not any lower element.
I am glad actually I was not understood. This is good for me. I see now there is some communication barrier present. That I am not aware of.
That is how Argon is formed from potassium with radio active contaminants. The radiation destroys the potassium and creates an atom of argon. Electrons are released and leave the container or area.
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Just out of interest William, what do you think the difference between alpha beta and gamma decay? or if you just think its all one type.
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Just out of interest William, what do you think the difference between alpha beta and gamma decay? or if you just think its all one type.
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I myself believe with total conviction that all radiation is electrons. I believe that the patterns, velocity, the intensity, is different. However all electrons.
The devices we measure them with, use pretty much the same mechanisms. Basically electron radiation detectors. They measure electrons, in the x-ray velocity. Because they do tend to penetrate objects.
One thing though even weak radio will also penetrate objects to some extent.
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Putting thie nonsensical personal chit-chat aside, and in going back to the subject, it appears that the science community finds "no risk" at all with their Higgs-particle experiment at CERN, creating "near-big-bang" conditions. No risk. I am not trying to be the breeze blowing up their skirt, here, but its fascinating to hear that there is no "risk" at all involved in creating near big-bang conditions.
The strange thing is that they don't know what results they will get regarding the Higgs-particle, but they are telling the media they know exactly what "energy" results they will expect, what "chain reaction" results they will expect, but they have no idea what to expect regarding the HIggs-particle. Does that suggest already that the Higgs-particle has nothing to do with energy equations? I beg to differ though. You see, the problem is that the Higgs-particle is a proposed particle that gives the other particles their "reality" so to speak, their "mass". To suggest then that the Higgs-particle is not associated to energy equations would require a very abstract holistic view of what indeed the scienctists conducting these experiments are trying to achieve.
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