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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:38 am    Post subject: condisioning children to sleep? Reply with quote

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If you played the same piece of music each time a child fell asleep would the child come to associate the music with going to sleep, thus when you played the music would the child get sleepy, possibly fall asleep?

Not that i would suggest it, due to possible mental problems latter?
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Huh? That's totally commonplace. My son had a Disney musical ceiling projector. Lullabies. Also, from birth, a "developmental" mobile that played Beethoven, Bach, Mozart. And, we kinda sung him to sleep by instinct. Later we read the same stories every night with the same lame jokes told the same damn way... his insistence. "Bedtime rituals" are perfectly normal & we've been doing them for thousands of years at least.

Anyway, music does work.
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Young children like consistency and predictability, so as Pong says, this would work and does work.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: condisioning children to sleep? Reply with quote

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Sciler wrote:
If you played the same piece of music each time a child fell asleep would the child come to associate the music with going to sleep, thus when you played the music would the child get sleepy, possibly fall asleep?

Not that i would suggest it, due to possible mental problems latter?


Or, as was the case with my daughter

It drove her bonkers and then for few years after, whenever she heard the tune 'twinkle twinkle little star' she began to scream hysterically.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: condisioning children to sleep? Reply with quote

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Sciler wrote:
If you played the same piece of music each time a child fell asleep would the child come to associate the music with going to sleep, thus when you played the music would the child get sleepy, possibly fall asleep?

Not that i would suggest it, due to possible mental problems latter?




Or, as was the case with my daughter

It drove her bonkers and then for few years after, whenever she heard the tune 'twinkle twinkle little star' she began to scream hysterically.

Meanwhile,

what you suggest here is somesort of conditioning affect as seen with salivating Dog and bell yes? In which case, no. An adult would not magically fall asleep when hearing fond old nursery rhyme.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: condisioning children to sleep? Reply with quote

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Theoryofrelativity wrote:
It drove her bonkers and then for few years after, whenever she heard the tune 'twinkle twinkle little star' she began to scream hysterically.

Tragedy or comedy? Lol.

Did she hear it each time she fell asleep, or each time you put her to bed? Big difference. Nearly all babies are relentlessly pressed by parents to sleep more, demand less. Personally, I just couldn't leave a screaming baby. What unhinged my own was the sight of mama putting on makeup. By the time she'd plant that lipstick kiss on his face, before work, he'd be thrashing smeared in tears and snot.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: condisioning children to sleep? Reply with quote

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Pong wrote:
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It drove her bonkers and then for few years after, whenever she heard the tune 'twinkle twinkle little star' she began to scream hysterically.

Tragedy or comedy? Lol.

Did she hear it each time she fell asleep, or each time you put her to bed? Big difference. Nearly all babies are relentlessly pressed by parents to sleep more, demand less. Personally, I just couldn't leave a screaming baby. What unhinged my own was the sight of mama putting on makeup. By the time she'd plant that lipstick kiss on his face, before work, he'd be thrashing smeared in tears and snot.


I'd sing her to sleep every night, till of course it began to drive her nuts.

Maybe if you heard me sing you'd understand....
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