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Holmes
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: china ,shoddy building in boom time, usa too? Reply with quote

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so china gets rich because we bought everything there and they build shoddy buildings?will we also get earthquakes?being in a tall building doesnt interest me much anymore

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/arti...arthquakes.htm

live in small villages with lots of animals around and be kind to the animals

stay out of the tall buildings-they fall in earthquakes



This story from the Times Online pings the word 'conspiracy' to these stories of weirdness before the 7.9 magnitude earthquake hit China a few days ago, but such stories are not rare. In fact, animals acting strangely before earthquakes hit is fairly common.

From the London Times:

One blogger from Shandong province, in eastern China, wrote that more than a month ago, he went to his local earthquake resesarch centre several times to report that his animals had been disturbed and restless.

But, he wrote: "They not only ridiculed me, they accused me of making up stories."

The Chutian Metropolis Daily reported that on April 26, 80,000 tonnes of water suddenly drained from a large pond in Enshi, Hubei province. The province shares a border with Chongqing Municipality, which was devastated by the earthquake on Monday.

On May 10, a Sichuan-based newspaper, the West China Metropolis Daily, reported that hundreds of migrating toads descended upon the streets of Mianyang, the second largest city in the province which neighbours Wenchuan County, the epicentre of the earthquake.

In the city of Mianzhu, 60 miles from the epicentre, bloggers pointed to reports just weeks before the earthquake of a mass migration of more than one million butterflies
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You think their government let it happen to garner international sympathy?
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Darn those chinese for not preventing the earthquake just to get sympathy!!

OH! do you think our government lets the earthquakes happen in california just so they kill the gay and lesbians!!!???

Seriously though, the government should not give help to people who build in stupid places or with stupid buildings!

We shouldn't build on major fault lines and California is not the only state that needs to follow this. We can have major problems in the future on some other cities as well. There will never be a way to 100% ensure a cities resistance to nature, but there are common sense things we can do to ensure the cities we do live in are a little safer.

Like New Orleans, why on earth do they want to rebuild under sea level again is beyond me. Insanity is trying the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

I even heard people accuse our government of racial genocide by allowing Katrina to destroy New Orleans, its just ridiculous bureaucratic nonsense.
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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First the communists are evil because they forcibly relocate populations, playing God. Now that government failed to protect its own people, clearly irresponsible.

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I kinda agree with SuperNat, in that I think a lot of people continue to live in proven bad locations just because they happen to live there already. OTOH we are expendable, plus some amazing culture and innovation comes of adapting to hard environments.
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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100 years ago Chinese lived in bamboo huts that were not unsafe

now they have big dangerous houses
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Exactly, instead of building multi-story buildings, I think people should build more horizontally than vertically. Just my opinion though, but look at it this way, of the three buildings hit during 9/11, which one is still around? The one that is more horizontal than it is vertical, the pentagon.
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Sometimes tall buildings suffer less though. The worst is where a particular earthquake's wavelength resonates with building height. Rapid shaking hurts short structures; slower movement sways skyscrapers. The skyscraper actually "rides out" higher frequency vibrations that would shimmy a low-rise off its foundations.

The good news: we reliably predict wavelength through geology. So we know what to build, where.
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what does anyone know about straw bale houses?
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjNhJqnva3w
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