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streamSystems
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:55 am    Post subject: ancient egyptian wisdom.....science? Reply with quote

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Did Egypt present a "science", an art of explaining space-time relevant to how space-time operated?

Or, did ancient Egypt confound that issue with mythical Gods?

Purposefully?
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's an interesting question, is science of the past the religion of the future, or is religion of the past the science of the future.

I suppose the two over time have been at the mercy of chinese whispers, one story gets told, another past along I suppose. What we have is maybe nothing like what it should be.

Well work on that time theory of yours and maybe we can answer the issue directly. Lets focus on buliding a time machine-that's the only way to prove anything.
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You are the most outside box thinker on this forum and am very intruged by your ideas. I would like to learn more. Do you think you could use your theory to explain time travel-I have one and it is very logical. Have you seen Ronald Maletts idea?
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, but I will have a look.

All the the "outside the square" ideas I have presented spring from the theory (www download below). To say it hasn't captivated me is an understandment. I never dreamed of developing a theory like this.

On the concept of ancient egypt, I think it could have represented a social code to keep a society "asleep" to real scientific development. I think the "book of the dead" for instance is in some respects a type of "psychological trance" that keeps people blind to real scientific development. I mean, "book of the dead"....."eternal rest"......"sleep". It is what it is.
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I suppose the two over time have been at the mercy of chinese whispers, one story gets told, another past along I suppose. What we have is maybe nothing like what it should be.

You see this idea expressed a lot - "how do we know that any of our science is actually correct?" The answer, of course, is that if our science were wrong then most of the things the we designed with our science (like your computer (you need a pretty sophisticated understanding of quantum physics to design a semiconductor chip) or GPS (which takes relativity into account when calculating position) wouldn't work.
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I'm no rocket scientist, even though I'm sure I could get one to fly LOL, but I think "our" modern science stems from religion. I believe, well it actually seems quite obvious to me, that Ancient High Priest were the scientists of the day. Controls were placed so that only a select few could learn the "knowledge" of the Gods, or as we might say the Science of Existance. Eygpt & Nubia to Rome and Babylon,and King / High Priest Solomon. The library Alexandria was the begining of Science as a seperation from religion. Yes gods were worshipped there, but it was the largest collection of knowledge known. I bet ya that the Vatican archives have scientific knowledge of old that we are just learning todayThen the Holy Roman Church, ( Lords have mercy on their souls ) decided to make certain acts of obtaining knowledge punishible by torture and death. *** this " knowledge" being mostly sciences - astronomy, chemistry, human life sciences, medicine, botanical medicines, etc.*** So being a scientist was not possible unless you were with the "Church". Therfore mankind slipped into the dark ages. As the church's grip of free thought slipped away with the coming of the rennisance the industrial revolution and the greed of man. The use of science became greatly incouraged. It developed the world we live in today.

Now we need faith and science to save ourselves from what we have done to the planet. Twisted Evil
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: ancient egyptian wisdom.....science? Reply with quote

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Did Egypt present a "science", an art of explaining space-time relevant to how space-time operated?

There's strong evidence that the Egyptians understood the concepts of time and its mechanics, but less such that they understood the mechanics of space. Their engineering was very advanced, the the functions of space-time, if considered at all, probably weren't done so in such a way that would relate to how we now understand it.

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Or, did ancient Egypt confound that issue with mythical Gods?

Considering the position of cultures during the time period, they did what they understood. How they represent their solutions is irrelevant, as is how they account for the things which they were not yet able to understand.
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In the time before patents and copyrights, technological advancement was mostly handled by guilds of some kind or another. If you knew a technology that gave you power, you did well not to share it with anyone outside your own circle.

Even in using it, you run the risk of allowing others to learn it, so concepts like magic and religion were valuable ways to offer alternative explanations for the phenomena that were created.

Some hermetical symbols parallel shapes associated now with things like electricity. I can well imagine some priest shocking or electricuting someone with his/her staff, and then calling it magic. Nobody would doubt it.
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