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Raymond K
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Why not have a super genius as president? Reply with quote

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I think that geniuses are the only ones who bring about true, long-term change in general humanity. If we had a super genius as our president that has the willpower to work hard we would definitly be a more successful country. No, we have to vote, and we vote for the average persons, and guess what? No change. Most votes people send out are biased and controlled by the media just like majority of other things in my country (USA). Just a thought, I am sure it will never happen. It's kind of sad, I only imagine my country getting worse and worse with time, we need change.
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Say, the unibomber was a genius, where is he? I want him for president!

( ~(Generally, and in a psychological study, geniuses are emotionally unstable ).;

I am going to run for president when I am of age, and I am going to be on the party of the American people. I won't care about abortion, or global warming, I will care about stuff that matters.

Oh, and I suppose people like to vote for people like them. It gives them a sense of security.
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Man, Americans are so ripe for dictatorship they're begging for it. Any Americans remember what democracy is?
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Again, let's make this a bit more international. The US isn't the only country with these issues.

In general you have to ask yourself what the function of a head of state really is. Should he/she really be the one to solve complex issues, to design policy? I think there are other people for that, like cabinet ministers, state secretaries etc.

Isn't the function of a head of state rather to make general decisions, to steer their country into a general direction rather than to micromanage? A single person can't possibly know the details of every policy area there is, especially not if he's only in office for about 5 years (4 years in some countries, up to 7 years in others).

I think a head of state should have a general vision for his country and a basic understanding of what's going on. That's all we can expect from a single person. It's certainly helpful to have 'super geniusses' in a government, but the head of state doesn't seem the right place for them in my eyes.
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Raymond K
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ryon wrote:
Say, the unibomber was a genius, where is he? I want him for president!

( ~(Generally, and in a psychological study, geniuses are emotionally unstable ).;

I am going to run for president when I am of age, and I am going to be on the party of the American people. I won't care about abortion, or global warming, I will care about stuff that matters.

Oh, and I suppose people like to vote for people like them. It gives them a sense of security.


Only some are emotionally unstable.

The above posters fail to see my point, a genius president is way more likely to bring about needed change for our country to function more properly. Mabye there are different sections of government that solve the problems, but a good leader is what we need.
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pong wrote:
Man, Americans are so ripe for dictatorship they're begging for it. Any Americans remember what democracy is?


The freedom we founded the USA on no longer exists due to overpopulation and too many modifications to laws and rights. Plus majority of the things is run by money here in the US
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Capitalism fails in an overpopulated society, because basic necessities become too scarce, and people will accept unfair deals if the alternative is to starve.


Raymond K wrote:
Ryon wrote:
Say, the unibomber was a genius, where is he? I want him for president!

( ~(Generally, and in a psychological study, geniuses are emotionally unstable ).;

I am going to run for president when I am of age, and I am going to be on the party of the American people. I won't care about abortion, or global warming, I will care about stuff that matters.

Oh, and I suppose people like to vote for people like them. It gives them a sense of security.


Only some are emotionally unstable.


Of course geniuses are emotionally unstable. They have no one to socialize with, or at least no one that really offers constructive interaction from their perspective.

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The above posters fail to see my point, a genius president is way more likely to bring about needed change for our country to function more properly. Mabye there are different sections of government that solve the problems, but a good leader is what we need.


People tend to focus more on how aware a candidate is of their own specific needs. Geniuses rarely understand what it's like to try and get by in life when you're not the sharpest tool in the shed, and so they seem very detached and uncaring.

You have to be an everyman, or people won't trust you to serve their interests. Besides: what happens if we elect a highly intelligent crook? Who's going to stop that guy? Dick Cheney seems pretty bright.
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kojax wrote:
People tend to focus more on how aware a candidate is of their own specific needs. Geniuses rarely understand what it's like to try and get by in life when you're not the sharpest tool in the shed, and so they seem very detached and uncaring.

They can fix that with a fatherly persona, which sells in most cultures. Even if the act is empty, the guy feels right. "Presidential" as they say. Give Mitt Romney another twenty years.
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But not every genius is antisocial or insane
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1) A president does not have complete comtrol over policymaking. Remember, it is Congress that makes the laws, and even the judicial branch engages in judicial activism. a president in complete control over policymaking is known as a dictator.

2) There are many types of geniuses in many different fields. Generally, constituting someone has a 'genius' does not necessarily make one fit to govern. As stated before, a genius wouldn't know about all the issues. In fact, I would feel very insecure if a great physist was president.

3) Even if not every genius is insane or antisocial, most people do not consider someone who is "emotional intelligent" to be a genius. However, a president needs to have a strong EQ, and have strong social relationships, stronger than the average person, in order to build allies with other countries and engage in diplomatic relations.

I would however, want geniuses in the white house. I would want a genius in economics to be part of the council of economic advisors. I would want a military genius to be the Secretary of Defense or part of the Joint chief of Staff.
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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am i the only one who knows that the USA is a country wich is held in check by 3 systems and the president is realy not very powerful at all all he does is to inforce the laws that are sent to him through congress he is just a high ranking police officer he can realy do absolutly nothing to change the country u should be asking about the congress should they be made up of geneiuses not the president he is just a misleading prick to be quite honest"i will lower taxes"controled by the congress duhh.
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you know, why not have a supercomputer as leader of your country?

i mean it, assuming the technology gets good enough a computer might make a better leader than any human... gotta watch who programs the thing though

think my heads too far in the clouds here?
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How about I redo it and say, "Why not have geniuses run the government?"
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Our government was designed on the premise that non-geniuses would run it.
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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medlakeguy wrote:
you know, why not have a supercomputer as leader of your country?

i mean it, assuming the technology gets good enough a computer might make a better leader than any human... gotta watch who programs the thing though

think my heads too far in the clouds here?


Hmm, perhaps if the computer is programmed to understand game theory it could be an effective diplomat.
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