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| Dlrow |
 Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:26 pm Post subject: Why is this not art? |
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| Why is the messy rocky hill over there by the broken weeping willow not a form of art until one draws it? |
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It is.
But I believe 'art' defines as 'That which is controversial'. 
Seriously though, I believe however that this is not to far from the truth, in that each and every painting of that messy rocky hill that is painted by someone is entriely different and can convey a whole variety of meanings, emotions etc. But in English, in my deifinition, art is something, anything, that is represented out of real time, to be observed without time.
That is my definition anyway.
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| Dlrow |
| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Nature is the greatest artist of all.. As it is nature that created our perception of itself. |
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I completley agree with you! 
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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I agree, but truthfully only now that I've seen you mention it. Interesting thought, never thought of that
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| Why is the messy rocky hill over there by the broken weeping willow not a form of art until one draws it? |
Because art is DEFINED as a product of human creativity. Nature can be wonderful and beautiful but it isn't art, by definition. |
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| Inevidence |
| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Well, call me silly, but concidering art began with nature, there should be something to credit nature too; i mean.. it's the source of inspiration for a great deal of things, art and other alike, isn't it?
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Come on Bunbury, the definition of art is widely disputed and no such definition actually exists. Now I see why nodoby got my joke. 
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| Bunbury |
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art 1. Skill, esp. human skill, as opposed to nature;
Concise Oxford Dictionary
art 1. Human effort to imitate, supplement, alter or counteract the work of nature 2.a. Conscious arrangement of or production of sounds, colors forms...and so on...
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| Bunbury |
| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:22 am Post subject: |
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| .. it's the source of inspiration for a great deal of things, art and other alike, isn't it? |
Yes, absolutely. It is the inspiration for art, but it isn't art in itself. Unless you believe in Slartibartfast, designer of Norway. He wasn't human, but who wants to nit pick... |
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| Schizo |
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humans are nature, and the things we do are a part of nature... so if we create; it is nature creating.
When the day comes where we can engineer DNA... we could possibly create beautiful things... like a flower that is designed to be beautiful to the human mind...
One more thing. I know from personal experience, the most beautiful thing i have seen is our progress in the universe. Those figures that have stood out in our history, coming to new conclusions about our world, or the groups that have fought or died for new beliefs are, to me, a grandeur that can not be matched.
Rocks and waterfalls are nice; but one day we all will look back at our home amid the stars and see beauty untold; because it is ours.
I would like to share a poem I wrote... = )
EARTH RISE
Standing among ashen gray
Peering into a blackened void
Amidst it; home
Crystal blue
Never knowing isolation
Never knowing wonderment
Never really understanding why I cry; until now
There, by herself, she looks back
Inside I feel alive
For once; I know tomorrow will survive
If forever I could feel this moment
I could truly say I am in love
If only with the thought of what I saw
My home among the stars
This is a tribute to our first steps into a much larger existence.
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