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| chewimcdougle |
 Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: What dictates the movement of galaxies? |
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Just something I have allways wondered about. I know galaxies are moving though space, but what exactly dictates their movement?
Do we believe they are basically in free fall, or are there any theories I don't know about. I have heard stuff about dark energy repelling the galaxies away from each other, but are there any other theories?
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| mathman |
| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| The primary motion is due to the expansion of the universe. In addition there is gravitational attraction between galaxiex. |
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| kojax |
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| Yeah. Galaxies orbit each other just like the stars in a galaxy orbit the galaxy center. They're called galaxy clusters. It's like a galaxy of galaxies. |
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| JerryG38 |
| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: What dictates the movement of galaxies? |
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| chewimcdougle wrote: |
Hi
Just something I have allways wondered about. I know galaxies are moving though space, but what exactly dictates their movement?
Do we believe they are basically in free fall, or are there any theories I don't know about. I have heard stuff about dark energy repelling the galaxies away from each other, but are there any other theories? |
In general galaxies are independent inertial systems. Some nearby galaxies may attract or repel each other. Mostly they are independent and revolve around a black hole at the center of each galaxy.
The galaxies are centered upon a sphere of Radius Ru the radius of the universe. This is the same as the radius of the galaxy outer energy field which is 15.9145 billion light years based upon the motion of the Bohr orbit expansion time from zero radius at big bang to the present radius.
The galaxes expand and rotate. Once we move to the inner sphere of the structure of the universe we get universes of lower light speeds. For example a universe of c/2 light speed has a radius of Ru/2. When we go lower we find a large series of lower light speed universes.
Finally at the very center we find zero light speed which has infinite mass. It is unmovable and eternal. This is the source of the creative intelligence in the universe. |
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| SolomonGrundy |
| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: What dictates the movement of galaxies? |
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| chewimcdougle wrote: |
Hi
Just something I have allways wondered about. I know galaxies are moving though space, but what exactly dictates their movement?
Do we believe they are basically in free fall, or are there any theories I don't know about. I have heard stuff about dark energy repelling the galaxies away from each other, but are there any other theories? |
In general galaxies are independent inertial systems. Some nearby galaxies may attract or repel each other. Mostly they are independent and revolve around a black hole at the center of each galaxy.
The galaxies are centered upon a sphere of Radius Ru the radius of the universe. This is the same as the radius of the galaxy outer energy field which is 15.9145 billion light years based upon the motion of the Bohr orbit expansion time from zero radius at big bang to the present radius.
The galaxes expand and rotate. Once we move to the inner sphere of the structure of the universe we get universes of lower light speeds. For example a universe of c/2 light speed has a radius of Ru/2. When we go lower we find a large series of lower light speed universes.
Finally at the very center we find zero light speed which has infinite mass. It is unmovable and eternal. This is the source of the creative intelligence in the universe. |
have you been there? is that how it is in the middle ?
Finally at the very center we find zero light speed which has infinite mass ... like no realy , we can find 0 all over and is called 0 ... and if you do not like it you can as(s) some robot sayed Bender: Bite my shiny metal ass!
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| kojax |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:08 am Post subject: Re: What dictates the movement of galaxies? |
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| JerryG38 wrote: |
| chewimcdougle wrote: |
Hi
Just something I have allways wondered about. I know galaxies are moving though space, but what exactly dictates their movement?
Do we believe they are basically in free fall, or are there any theories I don't know about. I have heard stuff about dark energy repelling the galaxies away from each other, but are there any other theories? |
In general galaxies are independent inertial systems. Some nearby galaxies may attract or repel each other. Mostly they are independent and revolve around a black hole at the center of each galaxy.
The galaxies are centered upon a sphere of Radius Ru the radius of the universe. This is the same as the radius of the galaxy outer energy field which is 15.9145 billion light years based upon the motion of the Bohr orbit expansion time from zero radius at big bang to the present radius.
The galaxes expand and rotate. Once we move to the inner sphere of the structure of the universe we get universes of lower light speeds. For example a universe of c/2 light speed has a radius of Ru/2. When we go lower we find a large series of lower light speed universes.
Finally at the very center we find zero light speed which has infinite mass. It is unmovable and eternal. This is the source of the creative intelligence in the universe. |
That is an interesting theory. It has interesting implications, too. |
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: What dictates the movement of galaxies? |
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| chewimcdougle wrote: |
Hi
Just something I have allways wondered about. I know galaxies are moving though space, but what exactly dictates their movement?
Do we believe they are basically in free fall, or are there any theories I don't know about. I have heard stuff about dark energy repelling the galaxies away from each other, but are there any other theories? |
The best known theory states that the movement of most galaxies is the result of the super'force' and the big bang. However, there are galaxies that interact with each other via gravity these days. But there is an even bigger influence from dark matter. As a gravitational effect, I believe it is said.
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general galaxies are independent inertial systems. Some nearby galaxies may attract or repel each other. Mostly they are independent and revolve around a black hole at the center of each galaxy.
The galaxies are centered upon a sphere of Radius Ru the radius of the universe. This is the same as the radius of the galaxy outer energy field which is 15.9145 billion light years based upon the motion of the Bohr orbit expansion time from zero radius at big bang to the present radius.
The galaxes expand and rotate. Once we move to the inner sphere of the structure of the universe we get universes of lower light speeds. For example a universe of c/2 light speed has a radius of Ru/2. When we go lower we find a large series of lower light speed universes.
Finally at the very center we find zero light speed which has infinite mass. It is unmovable and eternal. This is the source of the creative intelligence in the universe. |
We may have another troll.....
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Yeah and without the troll there would be no three billy goats gruff tale now would there? And thus no lessons learned for any party. The world is in balance my friend. But yes, very well possibly noticed anyway.
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Yeh, JerryG38 has some weird, non-mainstream(nonsense) views on the universe. 
The governing things is the centre of gravity. Each system has it. Solar system -> Galaxy -> Galactic cluster -> Galactic supercluster -> ?. As far as the theory of gravity goes, each object has an effect of some magnitude with any other object within its light-cone. It is the vector sum of these gravitational effects and the time involved that determines its movement.
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| JerryG38 |
| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: What dictates the movement of galaxies? |
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| chewimcdougle wrote: |
Hi
Just something I have allways wondered about. I know galaxies are moving though space, but what exactly dictates their movement?
That is an interesting theory. It has interesting implications, too. |
I thought some might be interested. I will give you the universe. Right now my
Dot-Wave Unified Field theory has been sent to 70 professors at the top universities in three chapters. I am just finishing 4 more short chapters. I will post these herein. What no one could calculate I have done. It took me 27 years and at age 69, I have little time left for my interesting work. Thus I share with the world via the schools and herein. Stay tuned for more. |
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I think it's wise to point out that the idea isn't mainstream, though, Jerry, because some people reading it might not know that, and then they'll have a hard time explaining themselves to their physics professors.....
I'm also not suggesting that your theory is necessarily false, just that novices shouldn't take it as gospel. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: Re: What dictates the movement of galaxies? |
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| I thought some might be interested. I will give you the universe. Right now my Dot-Wave Unified Field theory has been sent to 70 professors at the top universities in three chapters. I am just finishing 4 more short chapters. I will post these herein. What no one could calculate I have done. It took me 27 years and at age 69, I have little time left for my interesting work. Thus I share with the world via the schools and herein. Stay tuned for more. |
With genuine warmth, Jerry, it is old people like you who give old people like me a bad name. 
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| chewimcdougle |
| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: Re: What dictates the movement of galaxies? |
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| JerryG38 wrote: |
In general galaxies are independent inertial systems. Some nearby galaxies may attract or repel each other. Mostly they are independent and revolve around a black hole at the center of each galaxy.
The galaxies are centered upon a sphere of Radius Ru the radius of the universe. This is the same as the radius of the galaxy outer energy field which is 15.9145 billion light years based upon the motion of the Bohr orbit expansion time from zero radius at big bang to the present radius.
The galaxes expand and rotate. Once we move to the inner sphere of the structure of the universe we get universes of lower light speeds. For example a universe of c/2 light speed has a radius of Ru/2. When we go lower we find a large series of lower light speed universes.
Finally at the very center we find zero light speed which has infinite mass. It is unmovable and eternal. This is the source of the creative intelligence in the universe. |
Wow, OK. I asked if there were any other theories I don't know about. Guess I just got one lol.
Nice theory mate, can't see how your going to prove it but it's interesting,,, to say the least  |
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