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Theoryofrelativity
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: The soul is a separate life form made of energy ..or not? Reply with quote

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Deep sea vents

Little fishy living in hot temps that will boil it if it were not for the bacteria that lives on it's skin protecting it from those temps

The particular bacteria concerned cannot exist without that fish and the fish cannot exist without that bacteria in this environment

So

As these two things cannot at all exist without each other in that environment do you think that they are at all aware (assuming they had the capability, which they don't but lets assume) that there are two separate life forms co-existing or would the fish believe that the bacteria was part of them and vice versa not realising they are in fact separate?

Is it possible that we as humans may be playing host to something we assume is part of us but is in fact separate. I would hazard that this something may be an energy being and we refer to it fondly as our 'soul'. When the biological organism dies this energy being departs

We cannot deny we are made of 'energy'
We cannot deny that energy does not 'disappear' and so when the biological aspect of us appears to disappear, that energy pattern lives on. Where does it go, what does it do?
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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there is interesting research that suggests our intestinal flora exerts effects on our traits, such as weight and in some surprising cases, behavior.

Related to this, rabies victims develop an intense desire to bite others near the end of their illness. You may enjoy "Parasite Rex" for an interesting read.
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free radical wrote:
there is interesting research that suggests our intestinal flora exerts effects on our traits, such as weight and in some surprising cases, behavior.

Related to this, rabies victims develop an intense desire to bite others near the end of their illness. You may enjoy "Parasite Rex" for an interesting read.


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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Re: The soul is a separate life form made of energy ..or not Reply with quote

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Theoryofrelativity wrote:

As these two things cannot at all exist without each other in that environment do you think that they are at all aware (assuming they had the capability, which they don't but lets assume) that there are two separate life forms co-existing or would the fish believe that the bacteria was part of them and vice versa not realising they are in fact separate?

It depends on how smart you want to imagine the fish are, and what sort of tools they have to study themselves.
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Is it possible that we as humans may be playing host to something we assume is part of us but is in fact separate. I would hazard that this something may be an energy being and we refer to it fondly as our 'soul'. When the biological organism dies this energy being departs

Possible in that it can't be disproven, but that doesn't mean its likely.
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We cannot deny we are made of 'energy'
We cannot deny that energy does not 'disappear' and so when the biological aspect of us appears to disappear, that energy pattern lives on. Where does it go, what does it do?

What energy specifically are you talking about? The chemical potential energy in your muscles? The electrical energy in your brain? No one can give you a specific answer about what happens to the energy unless you specify exactly which energy you are talking about. Yeah, the human body relies on many forms of energy, but they are all more-or-less understood, and a biochemist or biophysicist can tell you what happens to the energy when you die. It's not like there's some nebulous, mysterious cloud of energy in our bodies that we can't explain. The short answer is that most of it either gets stolen by other living things that eat your body (animals, bacteria, whatever) for their own use, or just dissipates into the environment.
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: The soul is a separate life form made of energy ..or not Reply with quote

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Scifor Refugee wrote:
Theoryofrelativity wrote:

As these two things cannot at all exist without each other in that environment do you think that they are at all aware (assuming they had the capability, which they don't but lets assume) that there are two separate life forms co-existing or would the fish believe that the bacteria was part of them and vice versa not realising they are in fact separate?

It depends on how smart you want to imagine the fish are, and what sort of tools they have to study themselves.
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Is it possible that we as humans may be playing host to something we assume is part of us but is in fact separate. I would hazard that this something may be an energy being and we refer to it fondly as our 'soul'. When the biological organism dies this energy being departs

Possible in that it can't be disproven, but that doesn't mean its likely.
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We cannot deny we are made of 'energy'
We cannot deny that energy does not 'disappear' and so when the biological aspect of us appears to disappear, that energy pattern lives on. Where does it go, what does it do?

What energy specifically are you talking about? The chemical potential energy in your muscles? The electrical energy in your brain? No one can give you a specific answer about what happens to the energy unless you specify exactly which energy you are talking about. Yeah, the human body relies on many forms of energy, but they are all more-or-less understood, and a biochemist or biophysicist can tell you what happens to the energy when you die. It's not like there's some nebulous, mysterious cloud of energy in our bodies that we can't explain. The short answer is that most of it either gets stolen by other living things that eat your body (animals, bacteria, whatever) for their own use, or just dissipates into the environment.


our energy becomes part of other things, this is why when bad energy comes our way we feel shit Wink
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: The soul is a separate life form made of energy ..or not Reply with quote

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our energy becomes part of other things, this is why when bad energy comes our way we feel shit ;)


or it is just a huge pressure in your rectum
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