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| Cold Fusion |
 Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:24 am Post subject: The new atom! |
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http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/32948/title/Small%2C_But_Super
This could revolutionize so many components of science and daily living.
I am not very good at chemistry, could someone post any insight into the process, method, and potential of this?
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| William McCormick |
| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: The new atom! |
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| Cold Fusion wrote: |
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/32948/title/Small%2C_But_Super
This could revolutionize so many components of science and daily living.
I am not very good at chemistry, could someone post any insight into the process, method, and potential of this? |
Obviously very poor science at work. An atom is an atom. A molecule is a molecule. We have had revolutionary materials come and go over the last 100 years. It has all pretty much been done at a basic level and then abandoned.
I would not look to see anything good come from lies and poor science.
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| SolomonGrundy |
| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: The new atom! |
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| William McCormick wrote: |
| Cold Fusion wrote: |
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/32948/title/Small%2C_But_Super
This could revolutionize so many components of science and daily living.
I am not very good at chemistry, could someone post any insight into the process, method, and potential of this? |
Obviously very poor science at work. An atom is an atom. A molecule is a molecule. We have had revolutionary materials come and go over the last 100 years. It has all pretty much been done at a basic level and then abandoned.
I would not look to see anything good come from lies and poor science.
Sincerely,
William McCormick |
Dude this is good work good thing will come out of this so stay focuse more will come!
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In 1944, this creature rose from the swamp, with tremendous strength and some dormant memories that for example allowed him to speak English, but not knowing what he was, and not remembering Cyrus Gold or his fate. Wandering throughout the swamp, he encountered two escaped criminals, killed them, and took their clothes. When they asked him his name, he simply muttered that he had been born on Monday. Reminded of an old nursery rhyme about a man born on Monday, the thugs named the creature "Solomon Grundy". |
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| William McCormick |
| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: The new atom! |
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| William McCormick wrote: |
| Cold Fusion wrote: |
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/32948/title/Small%2C_But_Super
This could revolutionize so many components of science and daily living.
I am not very good at chemistry, could someone post any insight into the process, method, and potential of this? |
Obviously very poor science at work. An atom is an atom. A molecule is a molecule. We have had revolutionary materials come and go over the last 100 years. It has all pretty much been done at a basic level and then abandoned.
I would not look to see anything good come from lies and poor science.
Sincerely,
William McCormick |
Dude this is good work good thing will come out of this so stay focuse more will come! |
No, more will come of it.
We have had all the super materials and the truly super structures made from those materials. I had stuff when I was a kid that we still do not see around yet. And probably will not.
Why? Because light super strong things lend themselves to amazing body or equipment armor. They lend themselves to drone planes and rockets that could take a swipe at the top, while they await its coming hopeless of stopping it.
So they figure it is better we all just flounder with stones and knives.
Some of the titanium aluminum alloys and the Hastaloy-X materials that are nickle based are outrageous materials. Many years ago I built an oil tank holder for a dragster out of Hastaloy-X. The material was extremely strong compared to iron based materials. Yet it sits in the darkness almost unused. Even to this day. It is only useful for certain applications however, it is very useful.
The same is true of honey comb, either the titanium honey comb with aluminum sheet metal. Or the aluminum honey come and aluminum sheet metal. So many things could have benefited from these materials.
I can and have been getting these materials for years. Yet they remain out of the public eye. There are hundreds of other materials and equipment that remains just like this. Almost ancient yet almost unknown.
I have seen time and time again, where a scholarly fellow will get super enthused by something that has been around for almost one hundred years.
As soon as you see someone selling something under the wrong definition, you should stay away. An atom is an atom.
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| SolomonGrundy |
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As time pass by you will see that altering the universe and the mattery that sorounds you will bring pace to Earth.
This is the first step ...
I agree that from all things that you call good there are some that you call to turn bad.
But i see in other way good and bad , beacuse the things you will learn and know are history lessons to me.
I remember working on some project when i was young about turning atoms into super atoms.
The use of that and the limit of the technology is endless.
In my opinion if they will let you in 10 years you will be looking at a difrent world based on this old tehnology , that for you is new.
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In 1944, this creature rose from the swamp, with tremendous strength and some dormant memories that for example allowed him to speak English, but not knowing what he was, and not remembering Cyrus Gold or his fate. Wandering throughout the swamp, he encountered two escaped criminals, killed them, and took their clothes. When they asked him his name, he simply muttered that he had been born on Monday. Reminded of an old nursery rhyme about a man born on Monday, the thugs named the creature "Solomon Grundy". |
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| Ophiolite |
| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:00 am Post subject: Re: The new atom! |
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| I am not very good at chemistry, could someone post any insight into the process, method, and potential of this? |
I thought the article itself did a good job of that. Could you be more specific?
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| William McCormick |
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William McCormick
As time pass by you will see that altering the universe and the mattery that sorounds you will bring pace to Earth.
This is the first step ...
I agree that from all things that you call good there are some that you call to turn bad.
But i see in other way good and bad , beacuse the things you will learn and know are history lessons to me.
I remember working on some project when i was young about turning atoms into super atoms.
The use of that and the limit of the technology is endless.
In my opinion if they will let you in 10 years you will be looking at a difrent world based on this old tehnology , that for you is new. |
Science was all over in the sixties for sure. We had everything you think you might still want to see coming.
In the sixties they did a double check and sure enough they were done with science.
There was just one thing left to do. And that was go downtown, Washington DC, and get rid of some losers, and get some good old George Washington, American satisfaction. Americans are still a bit to humble, and instead of demanding some heads from their servants in Washington DC, they backed down.
Now Americans believe in things like super atoms or might. When it comes out there are no such things as neutrons, you might realize just how foolish the last fifty years have been.
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| I wasn't particularly impressed by the article. It appeared to be trying to make a lot of something that is uncertain. Clustering of atoms is pretty well documented - bucky balls are a common example - but I don't know of any proven application of of these clusters (I think clusters is preferable to"superatoms", although the latter might be more headline grabbing). |
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| William McCormick |
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| I wasn't particularly impressed by the article. It appeared to be trying to make a lot of something that is uncertain. Clustering of atoms is pretty well documented - bucky balls are a common example - but I don't know of any proven application of of these clusters (I think clusters is preferable to"superatoms", although the latter might be more headline grabbing). |
That is exactly what happened in the sixties. Headline grabbing articles promoting the most outlandish things as something else or new. Even though we already had those things, and they were actually better and more accurately labeled .
It is the imaginary neutron all over again and again. I am waiting for the guy from the Twilight Zone to narrate my life.
Thank God most everyone is committing suicide/genocide so it does not come as much shock or sorrow to them.
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| I thought the article itself did a good job of that. Could you be more specific? |
I thought that someone with knowledge of chemical bonding could think of a good use for this, besides those already stated in the article.
Think of all the materials we have made so far; with these 'super atoms' we could potentially make many times more materials than what we possess right now.
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| William McCormick |
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| I thought the article itself did a good job of that. Could you be more specific? |
I thought that someone with knowledge of chemical bonding could think of a good use for this, besides those already stated in the article.
Think of all the materials we have made so far; with these 'super atoms' we could potentially make many times more materials than what we possess right now. |
There is no material we cannot make and to be honest have not already made. At least in prototype quantities. There is nothing we cannot do already. This is just to sell some stocks or interest some investors or get government grants.
Some of these materials brought instant end to companies that wanted to pursue them. When they were labeled taboo, big companies withdrew support for the smaller companies or subdivisions in the company.
We can safely travel to other solar systems. Shield against radiation in space. Create materials and fields that can stop high speed space debris.
What material do you need?
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| Ophiolite |
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William, I really wish you would take your agenda driven delusions elsewhere.
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| I Have Many Questions? |
| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:46 pm Post subject: Speaking of old technology |
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| do you know how to make copper harder, stronger and less brittle than stainless steal, it was done a long time ago but the method has benn lost for a long time |
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| William McCormick |
| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Speaking of old technology |
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| do you know how to make copper harder, stronger and less brittle than stainless steal, it was done a long time ago but the method has benn lost for a long time |
I believe it is with Beryllium. They used to make springs with Beryllium copper. Those clicking childrens toys I believe were made with beryllium copper. However I believe that there is also iron or manganese in them.
Less brittle gets a little tricky. Hardened 321 stainless steel can be pretty tenacious. However you lose some of the stretchability.
The same would be true of copper, or any other metal. Anytime you harden a metal or alloy. You fracture it. If you create a hard alloy you create an alloy with a natural fracture. That likes to maintain its shape.
Bend a tight radius in that hardened material and it will show stress fractures. Before it even goes into action or application.
If you want a hard flexible metal look at titanium alloys. Titanium and manganese alloys. Some of them will not cut with carbon or bimetal blade. You have to grind them or cut them over time.
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| Wow you really know your stuff. I heard of a knife that was found in an egyption tomb, apparently it was made from cooper but had a lot more strngth than stainless steal, it was still sharp when the found it. I found that quite interesting that the egyptians could do somethig like that so long ago and today no one knows anything about it. |
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