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| leohopkins |
 Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:55 pm Post subject: The Philladelphia experiment. |
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Can anyone tell me first of all; was this a ficticious experiment ?
If not ?
What actually was it ? and what happened ?
All I know is that it had something to do with the USS Nimitz. UI have heard stories of timetravel too ?
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| Bettina |
| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: The Philladelphia experiment. |
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| leohopkins wrote: |
Can anyone tell me first of all; was this a ficticious experiment ?
If not ?
What actually was it ? and what happened ?
All I know is that it had something to do with the USS Nimitz. UI have heard stories of timetravel too ? |
It was a great fictional story.  You can read it here..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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But it goes down as another 'conspiracy theory' so 2/3rds of the world will suck it down like a pint of cold beer - no rational argument will convince them otherwise. Another Author makes a few bucks and the only positive thing is that we get another thread...  |
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| leohopkins |
| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject: Oh I see........ |
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Just read the article Bettina thanks !
Um....Can light be bent around objects ?
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| Yes, light bends around all objects exhibiting mass. Tthe sun is large enough to bend it by a tiny fraction of a degree. |
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leohopkins, USS Nimitz??
as i recall, that experiment was referent to the USS Elridge, an WWII destroyer, in the late 30's/ early 40's (?? not sure about it tought...)!
I believe it was about envolving the destroyer with some wires that bend the magnetic field around it, possibly to make it stealthier to the magnetic torpedoes...
sorry about my bad english lol
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| leohopkins |
| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:08 am Post subject: possibly.... |
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possibly;
although what i heard is that the entire crew got killed during the experiment.
p.s...Dont worry about your English, I understood you; my English isnt that much better and I AM English !!
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wikipedia is a handy tool
searched the Philadelphia Experiment an i got these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment
it appears the Elridge was indeed involved in a project called Rainbow, that tried to make the ship invisible! the final results of the test are somewhat a mystery...which helped to create the myth! (if it is a myth...)
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geeez Bettina i'm sorry i've reposted the link you gave us...sorry! my bad
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There are two parts of that movie. 1 and 2. the have been on TV that day. The
second one I think.
As far as I know was there an experiment conducted making the navy vessel
vanishing. The experiment was repeated a decades of years later when a
research station is gone.
These two experiments, the second one opens a hole kind of a vortex which
connects to the moment of the first experiment making the vessel disappear.
This was the way I got both films.
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: The Philladelphia experiment. |
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| leohopkins wrote: |
Can anyone tell me first of all; was this a ficticious experiment ?
What actually was it ? and what happened ? |
Did it happen? Yes and no.
The Philadelphia "Project" was an attempt to experiment with ways of making a naval ship invisible to detection. Although urban legend has caused this to become and experiment to make the ships "invisible" the actual effort was to mask the ship from radar and other forms of detection.
Historically, a naval warship participated in the experiments. Some of these experiments involved using electromagnetic coils (some wrapped around the hull even) to try and mask the metallic hull's magnetic fields. They also performed experiments with materials and paints (sort of like those done for the stealth bomber and SR-71).
The real reason this is all a big wacko-magnet (ie government conspiracy topic) is because shortly after the experiments got going, the government slammed the lid on the project and stuffed everything into the super-top-secret realm. As mundane as that sounds, it hints that the government actually found something. Chances are one of their experiments proved feasible, and in typical government fashion they jumped into paranoid mode and locked it up.
Ironically, they probably only discovered something as mundane as radar-proof paint, or a radar-countermeasure device. Unfortunately, anytime the government clams up like that, all the idiots in the country go bizzerk.
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| All I know is that it had something to do with the USS Nimitz. UI have heard stories of timetravel too ? |
It's unlikely that the project had anything to do with anything other than the focus of the experiment (ie making the ships harder to detect). The government was very jumpy back in 1943, what with WWII and all.
The popular story is that the U.S.S. Eldridge, the naval ship being tested on, actually disappeared from sight.
As if that wasn't odd enough, a lot of conspiracy hunters claimed that the ship "traveled into another dimension and time, then came back." Where they got that idea, and why people with such a level of brain-damage are allowed to breed, I don't know.
Anyway, we know from experiments today that you can possibly bend light around an object using a magnetic field. This would actually render the object invisible. The government was doing some strange things with magnetic fields, and there is evidence that they might have been trying for just such an effect (although unlikely).
My theory is that one of two things happened:
1. They had one of their experiments work, and the project was closed up as a success in order to protect their new invention. What this was is likely some form of anti-radar (similar to what the Germans were developing at the time).
2. They accidentally pumped so much power through a magnetic coil, that by total freak accident it started to either disappear, or look funny, and they got scared.
Outside of that, the story is probably more boring than lead-paint statistics.
And anyone who thinks the government actually made a whole warship travel into a new dimension, through time, needs to be sterilized. |
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Allende's resume is dubious, to be kind. I think this myth had to do with the WW2 practice of degaussing ships to prevent German magnetic mines/torpedoes from locking on and embellishment took care of the rest. It's not a stretch to go from "invisible to torpedoes" to just "invisible," especially if you combine drunken sailors and naive listeners.
I recall reading somewhere that the sailor that supposedly "disappeared" in a Philly tavern was really spirited out the rear exit because he was underage and the MPs came knocking. Granted, it's anecdotal like everything else surrounding this lore, but if such a disappearance actually happened, that explanation makes more sense to me than someone "infected" with a dimensional-fade syndrome from a prior experiment that supposedly involved a ship that wasn't even in Philadelphia at the time (according to official records).
When I get a chance, I'll look for the item regarding the underage sailor and post a link if I find it. |
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: The Philladelphia experiment. |
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| leohopkins wrote: |
Can anyone tell me first of all; was this a ficticious experiment ?
What actually was it ? and what happened ? |
Did it happen? Yes and no.
The Philadelphia "Project" was an attempt to experiment with ways of making a naval ship invisible to detection. Although urban legend has caused this to become and experiment to make the ships "invisible" the actual effort was to mask the ship from radar and other forms of detection.
Historically, a naval warship participated in the experiments. Some of these experiments involved using electromagnetic coils (some wrapped around the hull even) to try and mask the metallic hull's magnetic fields. They also performed experiments with materials and paints (sort of like those done for the stealth bomber and SR-71).
The real reason this is all a big wacko-magnet (ie government conspiracy topic) is because shortly after the experiments got going, the government slammed the lid on the project and stuffed everything into the super-top-secret realm. As mundane as that sounds, it hints that the government actually found something. Chances are one of their experiments proved feasible, and in typical government fashion they jumped into paranoid mode and locked it up.
Ironically, they probably only discovered something as mundane as radar-proof paint, or a radar-countermeasure device. Unfortunately, anytime the government clams up like that, all the idiots in the country go bizzerk.
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| All I know is that it had something to do with the USS Nimitz. UI have heard stories of timetravel too ? |
It's unlikely that the project had anything to do with anything other than the focus of the experiment (ie making the ships harder to detect). The government was very jumpy back in 1943, what with WWII and all.
The popular story is that the U.S.S. Eldridge, the naval ship being tested on, actually disappeared from sight.
As if that wasn't odd enough, a lot of conspiracy hunters claimed that the ship "traveled into another dimension and time, then came back." Where they got that idea, and why people with such a level of brain-damage are allowed to breed, I don't know.
Anyway, we know from experiments today that you can possibly bend light around an object using a magnetic field. This would actually render the object invisible. The government was doing some strange things with magnetic fields, and there is evidence that they might have been trying for just such an effect (although unlikely).
My theory is that one of two things happened:
1. They had one of their experiments work, and the project was closed up as a success in order to protect their new invention. What this was is likely some form of anti-radar (similar to what the Germans were developing at the time).
2. They accidentally pumped so much power through a magnetic coil, that by total freak accident it started to either disappear, or look funny, and they got scared.
Outside of that, the story is probably more boring than lead-paint statistics.
And anyone who thinks the government actually made a whole warship travel into a new dimension, through time, needs to be sterilized. |
Hmmm. If they were successful in bending light around the ship. The ship would become invisible, but wouldnt everything (including the people) on board, erm - freeze !! - not to mention have hallucinations induced by the intensity of the magnetic field, and also be shrouded in TOTAL darkness !
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Many sailors of the U.S.S. Eldridge said the ship was never even docked in Philadelphia! Keep in mind they are all 65+ and have nothing to lose by telling the truth about the matter, plus the Greek Navy acquired the Eldridge and renamed it the 'Leon' I believe? If something super-sensititve happened to the Eldridge and its materials, it would never have been sold to another nation, EVER!
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