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| Jozen-Bo |
 Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: The Mind Portal...The Experiment |
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Hello!
I would like to introduce my work here. I call it the Mind Portal and I am looking for those who can help me to uncover what it is and what it can be used for. I believe it can be used for many different things, but its main purpose is to help us better understand ourselves by allowing us to see better what we are doing with our lives. It is mainly used as a Time Map, in order to use it properly, one must figure out a way to condense information regarding what they did, how they felt, and what happened to them into a code system that they can easily read.
Then, when that code is filled into the map, one spins it and watches their information code spin into a tunnel. The affects of watching this I have personally observed to be many. However, we need more people to get involved if we are to come up with any conclusive evidence that my claims are in fact true. I will now make 5 basic claims.
Claim number 1- When used properly (with a dairy code) one begins to experience dreaming more frequently, more vividly, and the time spent in the dream lasts consciously longer.
Claim number 2- One begins to see images more clearly in their minds when they use this. The affects accumulate over time and the person eventually can see vast orchestrations of complex images in their mind.
Claim number 3- When used one begins to experience time as passing by much slower. This leads me to believe that time is both a subjective and objective experience. I have been experiencing weeks that feel like months.
Claim number 4- When used, one gains the ability to look at possibilities more quickly. Since they experience time as passing by slower and since their minds are thus thinking quicker, they are able to work out many moves into the future what the possible outcomes will be, just as a chess player can predetermine the consequences of 100's of moves forward before actually taking them.
Claim number 5- The eyes become readjusted and begin to see energy that is normally there, but not normally visible. I believe this claim can be tested and proven, but I am not sure how to set up the test yet. I have personally seen over 50 types of energy behaviors after working with this Mind Portal. I have even seen what appears to be thoughts coming out of people's minds. I am telling what I have seen.
I will now provide 3 basic pictures of the Mind Portal:
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This picture provides good proportions for a calendar. If it is too small, there is not enough space in the day units to fill out information when building a matrix code.
By JozenBo at 2008-02-26
This picture is of the first matrix code I worked out and used to follow, track, and follow my life into a readable system.
By jozenbo at 2008-02-12
This is a picture of a Yantra, a pattern that I believe exercises the eyes and allows them to see things they otherwise could not normally see.
I will make this Introduction brief. I am curious what others may feel could be done with this, how it is operating, and how we could test it for possible values. I will be posting this same thread into isolated pods here. For example, I would like to see if we can use this not only as a calendar, but as a mathematics grid for doing advanced forms of math. When I post a thread under mathematics, the sole focus of the thread is to explore this possibility. For now, I am giving the general outline of the experiment. Here, the focus is broader- the questions can mix up easier, this gives us an overview, but slows down the progress of going into focused regions of exploration.
Please ask any questions that can help us better understand what this it, anything you want clarified, or post any comments and any workable knowledge we may have about this sort of development. For example; I am certain there have been studies on the affects of observing spirals and some sort of knowledge base somewhere in the field of Psychology, but I have yet to find it. Even if it is found, I would want to compare the working knowledge with my own investigation, to see the differences and the similarities. This would be most helpful!
So, please feel free to ask any questions or provide any valuable knowledge you may have that is related to this.
Thank You!
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OK.....Questions?
I will soon begin opening threads that break this down further, but first I will pause for a little bit more to see if a question appears.
ThanX,
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Does anyone have questions? Isn't that what good scientists do...ask questions (and seek their answers)? Anything at all?
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This device generally makes one more in touch with their subconscious correct?
I just don't see how spinning could induce all of those effects. Please elaborate more in detail the how, not the what.
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| Claim number 1- When used properly (with a dairy code) |
How do cows figure into this?
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It is mainly used as a Time Map, in order to use it properly, one must figure out a way to condense information regarding what they did, how they felt, and what happened to them into a code system that they can easily read.
Then, when that code is filled into the map, one spins it and watches their information code spin into a tunnel. |
Why do I need the mind portal to tell me about what I've done after I just put a condensed version of my life into it? To tell me what I already know?
Alarm bells are going off in my mind.
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| the time spent in the dream lasts consciously longer. |
You have timed this? how?
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| Claim number 3- When used one begins to experience time as passing by much slower. This leads me to believe that time is both a subjective and objective experience. I have been experiencing weeks that feel like months. |
Get a regular job, get married, have kids and grow old. You will experience the same things.
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| I have even seen what appears to be thoughts coming out of people's minds. I am telling what I have seen. |
Just because you see things doesn't mean anyone else will. A schizophrenic sees things that I don't. Mentally disturbed people see things that I don't. |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: Re: The Mind Portal...The Experiment |
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Then, when that code is filled into the map, one spins it and watches their information code spin into a tunnel. The affects of watching this I have personally observed to be many. |
Is that like the spin cycle of a washing machine? The effects are usually blank staring and dizziness.
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| However, we need more people to get involved if we are to come up with any conclusive evidence that my claims are in fact true. |
I'm sure people will flock in droves to support you. Let's see...
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I will now make 5 basic claims.
Claim number 1- When used properly (with a dairy code) one begins to experience dreaming more frequently, more vividly, and the time spent in the dream lasts consciously longer.
Claim number 2- One begins to see images more clearly in their minds when they use this. The affects accumulate over time and the person eventually can see vast orchestrations of complex images in their mind.
Claim number 3- When used one begins to experience time as passing by much slower. This leads me to believe that time is both a subjective and objective experience. I have been experiencing weeks that feel like months.
Claim number 4- When used, one gains the ability to look at possibilities more quickly. Since they experience time as passing by slower and since their minds are thus thinking quicker, they are able to work out many moves into the future what the possible outcomes will be, just as a chess player can predetermine the consequences of 100's of moves forward before actually taking them.
Claim number 5- The eyes become readjusted and begin to see energy that is normally there, but not normally visible. I believe this claim can be tested and proven, but I am not sure how to set up the test yet. I have personally seen over 50 types of energy behaviors after working with this Mind Portal. I have even seen what appears to be thoughts coming out of people's minds. I am telling what I have seen. |
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| So, please feel free to ask any questions or provide any valuable knowledge you may have that is related to this. |
Can you explain the difference between your claims and being really stoned? |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:23 am Post subject: Re: The Mind Portal...The Experiment |
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Is that like the spin cycle of a washing machine? The effects are usually blank staring and dizziness. |
No it isn't even close to the affects of a washing machine.
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| I'm sure people will flock in droves to support you. Let's see... |
No...its happening very slowly. I predicted a few years ago that this would start out incredibly slow, I would get tremendous criticism, and arriving at a better understanding would be no easy task. I also predict that the interest will increase on an exponential scale, but I won't go into the details at this moment. Thus far about 500 people have downloaded the PDF files that I offer freely to get started.
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| Can you explain the difference between your claims and being really stoned? |
Yes, being really stoned leads to forgetfulness, this does that opposite if my personal observation is correct. That is just for beginners. Getting stoned diverts one's attention, this fixes it. Getting stoned gives one the munchies, this doesn't. You can smoke cigarettes all day long while getting stoned, I have found that if I spin this more then 12 days in a row I can hardly smoke a cigarette and coffee begins to taste like $hit, as well I feel very sick if I indulge in either. Getting stoned gives one a hang over, this doesn't. I could go on, but this is already enough to clear up the difference, if this was just like getting stoned, don't you think it would boom much faster as all the stoner's flock to this to get stoned on it and save themselves money? Its simply not the same.
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| Claim number 1- When used properly (with a dairy code) |
How do cows figure into this? |
Excuse me...diary code! Better?
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Why do I need the mind portal to tell me about what I've done after I just put a condensed version of my life into it? To tell me what I already know?
Alarm bells are going off in my mind. |
Do you remember what you ate last week? Where you where and at what time? With whom you spoke to? Sure...thats probably easy! Now lets go back 1 year. Do you remember what you ate exactly 1 year from this day, where you where and at what time, with whom you spoke with? And the day after that ? And the day after that? Go back through your memory (anyone who reads this) as see how far it goes before you start losing the details and the general pattern disappears. How far can you go?
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| the time spent in the dream lasts consciously longer. |
You have timed this? how? |
Do you need a clock to know what 1 hour feels like when it passes by? If so I really feel sorry for you! I don't need to time my time to know how much of it I feel passing by, I can both feel and observe the difference between 1 minute and 1 hour, can you? I have had dreams where time crunched (don't ask me how) and I experienced as much as 3 weeks in the space of one night, that is, whatever was happening with time I felt and experienced 3 weeks just as you can feel the difference between 1 minute and 1 hour (assuming there is nothing wrong with you).
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| Claim number 3- When used one begins to experience time as passing by much slower. This leads me to believe that time is both a subjective and objective experience. I have been experiencing weeks that feel like months. |
Get a regular job, get married, have kids and grow old. You will experience the same things. |
This is nonsense. Ask anyone who is married, has a regular job, and kids how they experience time as they get older and 99% of them will say it goes by faster with each year. I have found this to be true myself, and I remember hearing it from almost everyone I ever spoke to about it. One of my physics teacher explained his idea on this to the class once, stating that each year is a lesser portion of the entire time of living as the last, thus it seems to go by quicker. The ENTIRE CLASS agreed that time was going by quicker as they got older. Do a poll if you doubt this.
Time began to slow down after I begin to use this, which is the opposite of what I hear others saying, which is that is speeds up and goes by subjectively quicker. Also, I have a regular job, I am married, and my wife is pregnant- be careful about assuming things about people you don't even know in the first place- your guess work is bound to be wrong.
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| I have even seen what appears to be thoughts coming out of people's minds. I am telling what I have seen. |
Just because you see things doesn't mean anyone else will. A schizophrenic sees things that I don't. Mentally disturbed people see things that I don't. |
That is what I intend to find out! I suspect that they will 100% of the time see something if they work with this for over a given amount of time (which has yet to be determined). It has nothing to do with being schizophrenic or mentally disturbed. Thus far, around 5 people have noted that they see energy after watching the checkered pattern spin for over a few days (putting in roughly 15 minutes to 30 minutes a day), out of the people I know who have done this, statistically that is 5 out of 5 (100%, but not enough people involved to impress). I would like to see how those statistics change over time.
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| Skiyk wrote: |
This device generally makes one more in touch with their subconscious correct?
I just don't see how spinning could induce all of those effects. Please elaborate more in detail the how, not the what. |
Skiyk,
your question is the most difficult to answer (and the best so far), because I am tired and feeling a little under the weather, I will wait until I am feeling better to provide the answer. I want to provide the best answer I can, and I feel that at this moment my focus is off (due to feeling slightly ill) and the answer will take time and energy, it won't be short. Thank you for your patience, I hope to provide a sound answer worthy of your question.
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| Thus far, around 5 people have noted that they see energy after watching the checkered pattern spin for over a few days (putting in roughly 15 minutes to 30 minutes a day), out of the people I know who have done this, statistically that is 5 out of 5 (100%, |
Is that 15 mins or 30 mins depending on your concept of time. I think you have to realize that 1 hour is 1 hour despite what you or anyone else thinks. There is nothing earth shattering about people's personal feelings.
Try this Jozie.....play solitaire or any card game repetitively for a few weeks. Eventually you will begin to see card patterns, like shadowy ghosts, even when not playing. I know, I played a lot of cards in college. Is it some kind of unknown energy, is it psychic? NO, it's how the brain works. Your spinning charts are just props, like the cards, that mean nothing but I guarantee you that science absolutely needs people like you, so keep up the good work. |
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No it isn't even close to the affects of a washing machine. |
Impossible to tell the difference.
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| Thus far about 500 people have downloaded the PDF files that I offer freely to get started. |
That doesn't mean they are supporting you. All 500 downloaded files could be in their "Recycle Bins."
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| Its simply not the same. |
Your posts, I meant? |
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| To get around 5 people to agree to stare at a spinning piece of graph paper for up to 30 mins is perhaps the most amazing part of this experiment. |
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| Thus far, around 5 people have noted that they see energy after watching the checkered pattern spin for over a few days (putting in roughly 15 minutes to 30 minutes a day), out of the people I know who have done this, statistically that is 5 out of 5 (100%, |
Is that 15 mins or 30 mins depending on your concept of time. I think you have to realize that 1 hour is 1 hour despite what you or anyone else thinks. There is nothing earth shattering about people's personal feelings.
Try this Jozie.....play solitaire or any card game repetitively for a few weeks. Eventually you will begin to see card patterns, like shadowy ghosts, even when not playing. I know, I played a lot of cards in college. Is it some kind of unknown energy, is it psychic? NO, it's how the brain works. Your spinning charts are just props, like the cards, that mean nothing but I guarantee you that science absolutely needs people like you, so keep up the good work. |
I am referring to objective time. I am sure you know the difference between subjective time and objective time. I doubt I need to explain. But, yeah- 15-30 minutes of objective time, as in how many times the second arm rotates to make minutes.
Also, here in these forums I will not acknowledge psychic stuff, I will play that role elsewhere (I am a role playing kind of guy! I use to even play AD&D, I was a Dungeon Master- but this is digressing), but here I am playing the role of skeptic. I will ask questions, but until there is any verification, all I can do is speculate and maybe sure observations, it is possible to observe something in the wrong way, so I will remain open to as many possibilities as I can, while seeking to eliminate them one by one.
Thanks,
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All the best,
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No it isn't even close to the affects of a washing machine. |
Impossible to tell the difference. |
Consciously yes. Its also impossible to see a blip of coca-cola for a millionth of a second, but the subconscious STILL SEES THE SIGNAL and the people get thirsty. Why else would this method of subliminal programming be banned back in the early 1900's?
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| Thus far about 500 people have downloaded the PDF files that I offer freely to get started. |
That doesn't mean they are supporting you. All 500 downloaded files could be in their "Recycle Bins." |
You like to think I am the only one. I might be. This is pointless. Time will tell. End of story.
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| Its simply not the same. |
Your posts, I meant? |
You are not making yourself clear. Can you clarify!
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