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| Hanuka |
 Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 11:05 am Post subject: Schools - an utter waste of time?! |
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Well... please dont crussify me for this but I have to ask what people around the forum think about this issiue...
I`m currently at 11th grade, 1 more year and i`m outta here (well.. straight to the army that is...  ).
When I look back at my life I`m finding out that ALL what i`ve learned so far from mendatory school(i hope i got it right  ) was an utter waste of time!
I mean... I could learn ALL(if not more) of what I`ve learned so far from junior school and high school in like... 2-3 years TOPS.
I know it teaches teh kid all those social conditions that he may encounter in life but that also can be conditioned in a very VERY short period of time.
Besides.. if me wants to be eh buziness matey, why the hell should I learn all those biology, geography, chemistry and other thingys alike when i can hire people to do the work for me if I ever encounter a case that I`ll be needing this kind of knowledge?! (me in person really likes these subjects, but i know ALOT of others who hate these subjects and dont want to know anything about them)
And also, why should I learn some of the very useless subjects such as history and bible, why the hell should I be needing to remember tons of useless texts just for one test if after a week past the test I wont remember anything from what I`ve learned?!
(and dont say to remember me legacy/past/ancestors or something like this cos I will kill you! . ..  )
..besides... why should a man that is an atheist or doesnt give a dam about WW1/2 learn these subjects?! (WW1/2, thats what we always were learning in history... if it was about ancient greece/rome or norse gods I would of loved history but other then that its a total bullshit for those who dont care).
In anyways.... I want your o-p-i-n-i-o-n-s-s-s-s-s-s!!!
thanks,
tony
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| organic god |
| Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: |
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the intelligent love school, and the moronic hate it.
at 16 all the people who left school in my year were complete idiots. and now have no prospects.
School is a gift to those of us who love learning and want to expand our knowledge.
sure there is a lot of pointless testing i agree with you on that but it is out of our hands as students.
And school is the entry to higher education, the land of oppurtunity
best thing is to go to school and take as much as you can from the exp. there is no point fighting the school system. how will it help?
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| Hanuka |
| Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: |
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ooo... it`ll help greatly, it`ll help by saving a **** load of time for us students!
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| SuperNatendo |
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Hmmm,
If your going into business, you probably need to learn how to articulate well. I have never seen anyone type the way Ali-G sounds before the way you do. It is quite astonishing actually. You would need to at least re-assure your employees that you know what your doing! No one wants to work under someone who knows much less than they do! They would just leave and start their own business, and run you out of town!
School is very important not just for learning social interactions! I don't know about your school but where I went to school each year the classes would go into much more detail than the previous year.
Most of the history books in high school teach mostly recent history since they hope at least some of the students have a basic grasp as to why the world is the way it is at the moment. If you are interested in a more specific time frame such as ancient Greece, college would be a good place to go, especially since universities more or less started in Greece 
As for Norse gods that is more of a mythology course than history I suppose.
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| Hanuka |
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Hmmm,
If your going into business, you probably need to learn how to articulate well. I have never seen anyone type the way Ali-G sounds before the way you do. It is quite astonishing actually. You would need to at least re-assure your employees that you know what your doing! No one wants to work under someone who knows much less than they do! They would just leave and start their own business, and run you out of town!
School is very important not just for learning social interactions! I don't know about your school but where I went to school each year the classes would go into much more detail than the previous year.
Most of the history books in high school teach mostly recent history since they hope at least some of the students have a basic grasp as to why the world is the way it is at the moment. If you are interested in a more specific time frame such as ancient Greece, college would be a good place to go, especially since universities more or less started in Greece
As for Norse gods that is more of a mythology course than history I suppose. |
hm... lol, well I never though about it this way before, I guess that sometimes my typing does sound a little bit as Ali-G speaking
But I`m doing it for me own sake as when I type this way I can get more words into the text in shorter time... basically... I type faster this way xD
In anyhows, me school is your usual school in tha world, we learn, learn and learn, and as each year passes the material gets... well... I cant say more complex, but it indeed is changing...
I`m what you can call a crappy student... but dont take my worlds lightly as I like to investigate deeply into shyt that interests me... which is unforuanelly not the shyt that`s thought as school (at least not in my school..)
I mean... i cant find a single occation in my future life that i`ll be needing the use of knowing how many jews died in tunisia, or how to find x^3, or when do I need to use present progressive or perfect(note; this thing is really useless)... and even if I be stuck at a situation which i`ll be required to find x^3... I could always find a matey of mine who could answer it for me!...
And if you want to learn something specific which is complex you can always take a course at the university to learn how to do it!
Bah, school is just rubbish! 
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Real knowledge doesnt come from schools nor knowledge which uve learned thru social conditioning but real knowledge comes from things that fascineate you, things that you enjoy studying, this knowledge sits in its pure form inside your mind as you wont let it be forgotten that easly...
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition |
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Learning is brilliant. If I could go to school again, I would I love education. I've been away from education for like 8 months now and my only stimulus is the www. I used to get annoyed by school, but I think its 100% neccesary. Although if I may add my penny in the fountain, the fundementals should be taught, GSCE stuff (high school) and that also after that people should be free to choose their education and not let parents make that decision. All of my friends have gone to uni, spending thousands upon thousands of pounds (double the worth of the dollar equvalent fee), and have not a clue why they are going in.
Life is a lesson, so, if thats true, living by definition, is learning! .
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition wrote: |
| All of my friends have gone to uni, spending thousands upon thousands of pounds (double the worth of the dollar equvalent fee), and have not a clue why they are going in. |
Believe you me, Brits pay nothing compared to Americans when it comes to college. |
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition |
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We must be lucky. Just so, exactly do you have to pay for a 5 year course, as an average of all courses that are avaliable? I think here its (in US dollars) $20,000.
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| organic god |
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| ooo... it`ll help greatly, it`ll help by saving a **** load of time for us students! |
a few students who don't like school rebelling will achieve nothing, you will just disrupt the learning of others which will waste the time of those who want to learn.
once again i reference my school, the idiots who didn't understand the lessons rather than listen and try to learn they messed around and disrupted the class. now they have no prospects they would jump at the chance to go back and change.
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if you want to learn something specific which is complex you can always take a course at the university to learn how to do it!
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need to go to school to go to university and study something complex. you can't jump in to a complex degree without the building blocks school gives you
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All of my friends have gone to uni, spending thousands upon thousands of pounds (double the worth of the dollar equvalent fee), and have not a clue why they are going in.
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indeed but you don't have to start paying it back until you start earning a certain amount, university is a great experience, and on average graduates earn a hell of a lot more than non graduates
http://www.comp.glam.ac.uk/pages/staff/efurse/Teaching/PSandIT/Lecture2/slide5.html
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition |
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...graduates earn a hell of a lot more than non graduates.
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Yeah about 10 grand more a year.
Thats not much compared to some jobs, and doesn't seem worth it. I'm only going to uni one day to help me build my time travel theories.
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition wrote: |
| We must be lucky. Just so, exactly do you have to pay for a 5 year course, as an average of all courses that are avaliable? I think here its (in US dollars) $20,000. |
I'm not sure what you're asking, but tuition and board at top universities can be as much as $50,000 a year. |
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| Obviously |
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| organic god wrote: |
| the intelligent love school, and the moronic hate it. |
I don't like school. And that's just because of the homework etc. I think I have a phobia or something, lol! I like studying on my own for some strange reason
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition |
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| serpicojr wrote: |
| 425 Chaotic Requisition wrote: |
| We must be lucky. Just so, exactly do you have to pay for a 5 year course, as an average of all courses that are avaliable? I think here its (in US dollars) $20,000. |
I'm not sure what you're asking, but tuition and board at top universities can be as much as $50,000 a year. |
Screw that and learn it yourself, so you don't get a qualification from it, you get the knowledge, and thats the point after all isn't it? Or is it.
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| serpicojr |
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition wrote: |
| Screw that and learn it yourself, so you don't get a qualification from it, you get the knowledge, and thats the point after all isn't it? Or is it. |
It's a little late for me--I already have my bachelor's degree. Luckily, I'm getting paid to get my PhD. |
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| Hanuka |
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| organic god wrote: |
| the intelligent love school, and the moronic hate it. |
I don't like school. And that's just because of the homework etc. I think I have a phobia or something, lol! I like studying on my own for some strange reason |
lol same here, currently i`m kinda behind the studies as I was sleeping nearly in all teh classes this year, and now i`m just loaning notebooks from me friend and study at home for a few dozen of minutes/week then i`m good as any other student! xD
high school is really just rubbish.
Btw, if you wanna earn a lot of money this university thingy doesnt help that greatly... better dedicade a few hours for ya self to think about a cool thing that is not yet in the world (at least not commercialised) then commercialise and start earning pretty much pretty muchly...
just my... dam! im a penny short
tony
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