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| ChrisLee |
 Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: Runny Nose |
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Anyway to cure runny nose besides using medicine such as diphenhydramine, chlorpheniramine etc.? Stuffy nose and runny nose.
Obstruct and irritate normal breath. |
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| Hanuka |
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Y'know this little chinese balm called 'Tiger Blam'? It usually comes in red(or in white) sixtagonal box...
anyways, a few good whiffs from it and ure set.
note that this balm is originally for releafing acing muscles 
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| ChrisLee |
| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:42 am Post subject: |
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Got two different tiger balm, one is the red one the other is the white one.
I think for stuffy nose the white balm is the suitable solution.
Anyway the active ingredients is the menthol and camphor for that. |
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| JaneBennet |
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| DaBOB |
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A runny/stuffy nose is generally caused by your body trying to get rid of a pathogen or keep them out. So why would you want to get rid of that, it is for your own good afterall?
In the case of the latter it might be due to an allergen as JaneBennet has noted. Just remember that allergies are all in your head (no pun intended) and you'll be fine. i.e. it's your body that causes you harm when you have an allergy, and just as you can pull your hand away from a hot burner, so can you also teach your body not to over react to normal, harmless substances.
If your nose is runny because of the air temperature than don't worry about it because it will go away when it warms up. Also, excess junk food seems to cause excess phlegm... so cutting back on the junk food and doing more exercise should help too.
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| Hanuka |
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| ChrisLee wrote: |
Got two different tiger balm, one is the red one the other is the white one.
I think for stuffy nose the white balm is the suitable solution.
Anyway the active ingredients is the menthol and camphor for that. |
Did that work?
Sniffing it used for Sinusitis, and I figured that running nose and Sinusitis
are the same thing so it should have the same effect.
Anyways, the complete list of the ingridients that make it are the following:
Menthol from Peppermind
Eugenol from Cloves
Cineole from Cajuput(a close relative of teatree)
Cinnamaldehyde from Cinnamon
and Camphor.
I dunno what are teh effects of these as I got the idea from a book.
But it surely does conatin some goodies that are good for yah rhino. 
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| i_feel_tiredsleepy |
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Allergies are not in your head  , they are caused by the production of specific IgE to commonly harmless antigens. They can't be willed away, it is in no way psycho-somatic. |
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| KALSTER |
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Bronchospasm? Anyway, as Jane said, it sounds to me like an allergic response (I'm victim of those myself), so an anti-histamine would most likely do the job. You can get some good ones these days that don't make you drowsy. Or you could buy cheap ones and then snort some ephedrine. yes i'm kidding
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| i_feel_tiredsleepy |
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| it is in no way psycho-somatic. |
Bronchospasm? Anyway, as Jane said, it sounds to me like an allergic response (I'm victim of those myself), so an anti-histamine would most likely do the job. You can get some good ones these days that don't make you drowsy. Or you could buy cheap ones and then snort some ephedrine. yes i'm kidding |
If you define something as an allergy it is an autoimmune disorder and not psycho-somatic. |
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Ok, cool.
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| DaBOB |
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| i_feel_tiredsleepy wrote: |
| Allergies are not in your head , they are caused by the production of specific IgE to commonly harmless antigens. They can't be willed away, it is in no way psycho-somatic. |
I beg to differ. Most common ways of treating an allergy would be to administer small doses so that the body slowly gets used to it. However, I suggest that it is more effective to simply make it mental. Sure call me crazy. I have taken my allergy test, but guess what, I eat everything it says I'm allergic to with no effect (yeah, like I'm going to give up shellfish because of an allergy test). I am my own ginny pig though. I willfully believed in my "crazy" idea without any doubt and it worked. I have met one other individual with the same opinion who had the same results.
You *points at you* are the expression of your DNA. What stimulates the nerves to fire that cause your hand to move? What stimulates that stimulus; etc. It is you. Your entire self; every cell in your body works in unison with every other cell. They aren't told what to do by anything greater than themselves. It is their coordination that makes action. Thus, just as some event can cause a series of events leading to the movement of an entire limb, so too can this same event cause a series of events leading to the training of your immune response. Most functions of our body are unconscious, and for good reason, but all reflexes can be retrained. It's called maturing from a baby to an adult. The process of practice and training; it's what allows us to think for ourselves.
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." -Aristotle
So sure, I'm crazy... but then we already knew that. Sure you can live with your allergies and spend your hard earned cash on your medications. I say embrace the pain; deal with it, and leave it in the dust. But then, of course, it's your choice.
And if you're curious, I don't have any hard evidence that I can show you. Unless you'd like to pay for me to take another allergy test. For many people their health issues are part of their character, and to mess with someone's character is not a good idea. It insults the intelligence of the individual. I dare not do this. So, I simply make an example out of myself and leave the rest to you (after all, this is how I like to learn from others).
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| i_feel_tiredsleepy |
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You can be allergic to a substance and not manifest symptoms in the digestive tract, the immune system is very complex. You can not will away having serum specific IgE against an allergen. This has nothing to do with your psychological state. B cells produce receptors with random affinities, if one comes into contact with an allergen it is specific to and then proliferates, you will generate an immune response it does not matter.
You can control the reflex of whether you will withdraw your hand from a flame, however you can not will away a burn once it has happened. Your reasoning is absurd because presence of IgE is a testable and observable fact. If a person has specific IgE against certain pollen present in the mucousal layer of their sinuses, they will develop a runny nose in response to exposure and there is nothing they can do about it. |
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| DaBOB |
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There is nothing YOU can do about it.
What I was speaking of was not the individuals psychological state. More like the state of their entire being... all at once.
I suppose it wouldn't mean anything if I told you that I used to have reactions to these allergies. I even had some psychological reactions that didn't even show up on the allergy test. I used to have migraines whenever I ate apples. Strangely, it didn't show up on the test (although pears did). Anyways, I began to think why I would have a reaction to something I am not allergic to. I remembered a memory of my childhood when I would always get car-sick and have a migraine on the way home from school; I would also always have an apple. Long story short, I started eating apples and was fine. So I said what the heck, lets try it with everything else; and voila.
Yeah sure, allergies go away in time. It was a coincidence. May I point out however, that I am not an idiot. I have spent my time in school (and likely have more to go) and, believe it or not, I have asked my teachers the same question (I've had doctors as teachers if that matters to you) and NONE of them have said it is impossible. Actually, it was in a nanotech class in which I met the person who concurred with me (nanotech incorporates medicine, chemistry, biology and far more topics; the class was taught by multiple teachers; and the students were also not idiots).
But again, we have the problem. Maybe I'm one of those compulsive liars who enjoys posting 1,100 lies on a science forum. Maybe I'm not, but you don't know me so there's no reason to believe any of this. So... here I go wasting my time. When I started school I wanted to be a doctor. It is the patients that have changed my mind. 'tis fine; I'm used to people's complaints. I remember when people would ask me if I knew what would be good for their ailment. Now, I just say "I don't know, why don't you have a smoke and relax on the couch for a bit... seems to be working so far."
Pardon the sarcasm, it's all I've got left.
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I support DaBOB's opinions somewhat. While it may be true "you can not will away having serum specific IgE against an allergen" it is plausible that people play an active role in forming sensitivities in the first place. A child who goes daily to the school nurse with playground injuries, sure, has real injuries... who'd argue with that?
Also, DaBOB's apples caused real symptoms.
I've acquired sensitivities before, and attribute the cause squarely to my own behaviour and state of mind.
The first sensitivity was to (the odor of) uncured polyester resin. I'd been fine with it, until one day got an overdose. From then on, just a whiff would prompt a blaring metabolic "No!" command. Weak, queasy, etc.
The second was a real mind game. This was food poisoning that had my wife and I vomiting, crapping, crawling on the floor and nearly passed out, within fifteen minutes. So a night at the hospital. What we ate was some old reheated unagi (barbecued eel) and cold tofu salad from the back of her aunt's refrigerator. We believed it was the unagi to blame. We later tried to confront unagi at the supermarket, couldn't bear the sight or even the thought. Funny thing is, the aunt later warned the tofu she gave us might be old. Yet to this day we have no problem with tofu salad, while innocent unagi receives a very gut reaction. |
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