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 Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: Quit bitching. The world is perfect thanks to God. |
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Quit bitching. The world is perfect thanks to God.
The one truth that we can glean from looking about is that things are perfect.
If you believe in God then it is logical to believe in the perfection of His works. If not then you must believe in a God that has created imperfection. This of course is not allowed in the description of God.
If there is a God then things MUST be perfect or God has screwed up and this is of course not allowed for God. I know that many see imperfection in the facts of the evil that we also see. Remember that these things must be and are part of Go0d’s perfect systems.
God id not a newborn God. He does not goof up perfection and would not allow imperfection to mare His perfect continence. `
Make the effort to recognize the perfection of God’s systems. If you see it then you know God. If you do not see it then you have a ways to search.
Let me know how it is where you are.
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| pavlos |
| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: Quit bitching. The world is perfect thanks to God. |
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Quit bitching. The world is perfect thanks to God.
The one truth that we can glean from looking about is that things are perfect.
If you believe in God then it is logical to believe in the perfection of His works. If not then you must believe in a God that has created imperfection. This of course is not allowed in the description of God.
If there is a God then things MUST be perfect or God has screwed up and this is of course not allowed for God. I know that many see imperfection in the facts of the evil that we also see. Remember that these things must be and are part of Go0d’s perfect systems.
God id not a newborn God. He does not goof up perfection and would not allow imperfection to mare His perfect continence. `
Make the effort to recognize the perfection of God’s systems. If you see it then you know God. If you do not see it then you have a ways to search.
Let me know how it is where you are.
Regards
DL |
Could you define perfect, once you've done that, you will hopefully realise it's impossible. Try to understand what perfect actually means.
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Quit bitching. The world is not built to serve you. It just is.
You are one among billions of lives interacting with each other trying to survive, consciously or unconsciously.
Grow up, will you?
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: Quit bitching. The world is perfect thanks to God. |
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Quit bitching. The world is perfect thanks to God.
The one truth that we can glean from looking about is that things are perfect.
If you believe in God then it is logical to believe in the perfection of His works. If not then you must believe in a God that has created imperfection. This of course is not allowed in the description of God.
If there is a God then things MUST be perfect or God has screwed up and this is of course not allowed for God. I know that many see imperfection in the facts of the evil that we also see. Remember that these things must be and are part of Go0d’s perfect systems.
God id not a newborn God. He does not goof up perfection and would not allow imperfection to mare His perfect continence. `
Make the effort to recognize the perfection of God’s systems. If you see it then you know God. If you do not see it then you have a ways to search.
Let me know how it is where you are.
Regards
DL |
Could you define perfect, once you've done that, you will hopefully realise it's impossible. Try to understand what perfect actually means. |
I do.
Knowing that there is a Godhead forces me to know that if it is then it must have purpose thus it must learn. As we enter heaven, we join this Godhead to a greater perfection because of the knowledge we provide.
To think otherwise would be to have no value for what we are in the grander scheme of things.
Souls matter.
Perfection then can be said to evolve to a higher form and continue to do so to eternity.
To say that God creates imperfection just sounds wrong, right?
Regards
DL
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: Quit bitching. The world is perfect thanks to God. |
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| pavlos wrote: |
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Quit bitching. The world is perfect thanks to God.
The one truth that we can glean from looking about is that things are perfect.
If you believe in God then it is logical to believe in the perfection of His works. If not then you must believe in a God that has created imperfection. This of course is not allowed in the description of God.
If there is a God then things MUST be perfect or God has screwed up and this is of course not allowed for God. I know that many see imperfection in the facts of the evil that we also see. Remember that these things must be and are part of Go0d’s perfect systems.
God id not a newborn God. He does not goof up perfection and would not allow imperfection to mare His perfect continence. `
Make the effort to recognize the perfection of God’s systems. If you see it then you know God. If you do not see it then you have a ways to search.
Let me know how it is where you are.
Regards
DL |
Could you define perfect, once you've done that, you will hopefully realise it's impossible. Try to understand what perfect actually means. |
I do try.
Knowing that there is a Godhead forces me to know that if it is then it must have purpose thus it must learn. As we enter heaven, we join this Godhead to a greater perfection because of the knowledge we provide.
To think otherwise would be to have no value for what we are in the grander scheme of things.
Souls matter.
Perfection then can be said to evolve to a higher form and continue to do so to eternity.
To say that God creates imperfection just sounds wrong, right?
Regards
DL |
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| To say that God creates imperfection just sounds wrong, right? |
It sounds wrong because it's wrong. Duh.
In a perfect world Jesus wouldn't need to die n a cross to correct the imperfect world. 911 wouldn't happen.
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I assume you are making a comedy, greatest I am?
God is perfect in his imperfection? If your source for God is the Christian or Hebrew scriptures, please reread for understanding of "perfection". If its some bizarre grotesque caricature of Platonism then bravo!
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taking the title of this thread "the world is perfect thanks to god" apart :
the world is demonstrably NOT perfect, hence there is no god 
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Really? Let me take you to Somalia or Ethiopia, put you in a tent in the dessert and leave you to the flies to die. Then come back and tell me the world is perfect! Your statement is so moronic that I am almost left speechless.
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| Really? Let me take you to Somalia or Ethiopia, put you in a tent in the dessert and leave you to the flies to die. Then come back and tell me the world is perfect! Your statement is so moronic that I am almost left speechless. |
That’s beside the point. Deserts are not meant for human habitation; humans just choose to go and live there when they could have chosen to go and live elsewhere. Even if some present-day desert-dwellers didn’t choose to live there, their ancestors did – so it’s still ultimately a question of human choice. To say that deserts are not perfect because we can’t survive there is like saying e.g. that humans are not perfect because we can’t fly.
Yes, there are imperfections in the world, but deserts are not a good example. Some other examples are needed to prove the moronicity of the assertion that the world is perfect. I’d go for earthquakes. Someone who thinks the world is perfect and then loses their home and possessions in an earthquake will surely never think the same way again (unless they are as idiotic as Job).
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| Really? Let me take you to Somalia or Ethiopia, put you in a tent in the dessert and leave you to the flies to die. Then come back and tell me the world is perfect! Your statement is so moronic that I am almost left speechless. |
That’s beside the point. Deserts are not meant for human habitation; humans just choose to go and live there when they could have chosen to go and live elsewhere. Even if some present-day desert-dwellers didn’t choose to live there, their ancestors did – so it’s still ultimately a question of human choice. To say that deserts are not perfect because we can’t survive there is like saying e.g. that humans are not perfect because we can’t fly.
Yes, there are imperfections in the world, but deserts are not a good example. Some other examples are needed to prove the moronicity of the assertion that the world is perfect. I’d go for earthquakes. Someone who thinks the world is perfect and then lose their home and possessions in an earthquake will surely never think the same way again (unless they are as idiotic as Job). |
Well it was NOT a dessert when they moved there. Even the Sahara used to support agriculture. Besides, plenty of people die of hunger in high rainfall areas as well. It is just about one of the worst examples of drawn out torture I can imagine.
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| Hanuka |
| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:23 am Post subject: Re: Quit bitching. The world is perfect thanks to God. |
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Quit bitching. The world is perfect thanks to God.
The one truth that we can glean from looking about is that things are perfect.
If you believe in God then it is logical to believe in the perfection of His works. If not then you must believe in a God that has created imperfection. This of course is not allowed in the description of God.
If there is a God then things MUST be perfect or God has screwed up and this is of course not allowed for God. I know that many see imperfection in the facts of the evil that we also see. Remember that these things must be and are part of Go0d’s perfect systems.
God id not a newborn God. He does not goof up perfection and would not allow imperfection to mare His perfect continence. `
Make the effort to recognize the perfection of God’s systems. If you see it then you know God. If you do not see it then you have a ways to search.
Let me know how it is where you are.
Regards
DL |
If you look at your post you'll see that its FAAAAAAAAR from perfect.
And by your defenition; if God created everything then he must of created
this ignorent, "self praising", half-assed based-on-nothing post.
The world as we know it is FAR from perfect, and besides, there is no such
things as "perfect". Perfection relates to single topics alone, on the duality
side of perfection topics erase the perfection of eachother.
For example, you think that your claim is "perfect" whereas all the other
members on this forum(hopefully) think that ure a total idiot.
END OF STORY!
p.s. ascention has nothing perfect in it.
Some might say that God is perfect or the akashic field is perfect.
but other then these unknown "entities" nothing can be 100% perfect.
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I`m perfect.
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| To say that God creates imperfection just sounds wrong, right? |
It sounds wrong because it's wrong. Duh.
In a perfect world Jesus wouldn't need to die n a cross to correct the imperfect world. 911 wouldn't happen. |
Then we agree.
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| To say that God creates imperfection just sounds wrong, right? |
It sounds wrong because it's wrong. Duh.
In a perfect world Jesus wouldn't need to die n a cross to correct the imperfect world. 911 wouldn't happen. |
Then we agree.
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DL |
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