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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject: Proof! Water Ice Found on Mars Reply with quote

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Woot!

This got me really excited.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080620-phoenix-ice-update.html
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is good news. There is talk of bacterial life below the surface (methane) so this water ice could provide habitats for it. particularly if they have some natural anti-freeze in them, the sort we have already discovered on earth.
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And there are more than only bacteria that can survive in ice; I forgot what it is called, but there is a type of small worm that can also live in solid ice. Even better if we were to find an organism like that.
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News from Sky&Telescope magazine

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/24080009.html

It's kind of interesting to compare this with a March article:

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/16669391.html
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It’s not that I want to (ironically) rain on your parade, but once ‘we’d’ theorized that planets can biologically seed each other via impact ejecta – isn’t the importance of life on Mars rather less, er, important than ‘we’ used to think?

It used to be a major and significant potential new ‘known factor’ we could add to the Drake equation. That was the point But… if we’re all one big happy bio-family, really, who, now, cares?

(Yes, we care. But people go on (and on) as though the above point has not been made).
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The discovery of life on Mars would be hugely important if it was sufficiently different from our life that it could not have shared a common ancestor. That would demonstrate it had arisen independently and that the origin and persistence of life was highly probable in even 'marginal' environments.

If it proved to be suffciently similar to likely share a common ancestor with ourselves, this would still be important:
1) Confirming and extending the extremity of environments in which life can survive.
2) Providing an alternative pathway of evolution from that common ancestor, which would give us insight into the evolutionary process.
3) Creating an unending set of opportunities for the Discovery channel to produce documentary after documentary on the topic.
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Creating an unending set of opportunities for the Discovery channel to produce documentary after documentary on the topic.


You'd think they'd done enough by now. They'll have a field day if that were true.
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