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| Skiyk |
 Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: Pollution Good...? |
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Don't blame me if this is found to be untrue.
I heard that there is going to be intense solar wind occurrences soon and that the pollution we have created could shield us from them.
Personally I think this seems quite odd but what do you think? 
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| DivideByZero |
| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: Pollution Good...? |
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| Skiyk wrote: |
Don't blame me if this is found to be untrue.
I heard that there is going to be intense solar wind occurrences soon and that the pollution we have created could shield us from them.
Personally I think this seems quite odd but what do you think? |
sources?
If its true, then it would unreveal the true beauty of nature. |
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| Lynx_Fox |
| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Pollution Good...? |
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| Skiyk wrote: |
Don't blame me if this is found to be untrue.
I heard that there is going to be intense solar wind occurrences soon and that the pollution we have created could shield us from them.
Personally I think this seems quite odd but what do you think? |
Well, we're at the very bottom of the sunspot cycle, which tends to be when we get the fastest steady solar winds.
By intense, you might be thinking of Coronal mass ejections (CMEs). They tend to happen at the peak of sunspot cycles and create geomagnetic storms which can play heck on our communications satellites etc. The next sunspot cycle, which is predicted to be quite intense, peaks about 2012 or so. |
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| Skiyk |
| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, my source happened to be my science teacher so that's where the "don't blame me" came in.
That is the basis of the 2012 apocalypse.
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| Pendragon |
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| Skiyk wrote: |
| That is the basis of the 2012 apocalypse. |
Apocalypse? We're gonna die? 
Seriously, how much damage can these CME's do at maximum? Whipe out satellite communication temporarily, or can it go further?
Nature is wonderfully complex, it's always possible that something bad has it's (temporary) advantages.
I also heard that air pollution, at least in the form of Co2, can actually make plants grow faster. Seems like the future will be wet, hot and green. |
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Well that's the way scientists want it, eh?
Better than dry, desolate and arid.
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| Kealran |
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| I also heard that air pollution, at least in the form of Co2, can actually make plants grow faster |
That is true, C02 is a limiting factor in plant growth. So an increase in atmospheric C02 creates a boost in plant growth. This can be a double edge thought, true that it can create a wet, hot and green future...but also, the oceans absorb huge concentrations of C02. Algae, in the ocean is another plant and requires C02 for growth, but this one can quickly multiply and turn a region of the ocean or a closed body of water into a dead zone. Since they multiply so rapidly they can't be eaten by the local fish population at the rate they grow, so they feed on all the nutrients, steal the oxygen of the water and leave the area a green barren slop...
On the concept of CME's, are those in the same category as solar flares? If so, solar flares are possible causes of some of the past mass extinction. Their massive quantity of radiation can kill most life on a planet, certainly ours since we are quite close to the sun.
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| Raymond K |
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| Pendragon wrote: |
| Skiyk wrote: |
| That is the basis of the 2012 apocalypse. |
Apocalypse? We're gonna die?
Seriously, how much damage can these CME's do at maximum? Whipe out satellite communication temporarily, or can it go further?
Nature is wonderfully complex, it's always possible that something bad has it's (temporary) advantages.
I also heard that air pollution, at least in the form of Co2, can actually make plants grow faster. Seems like the future will be wet, hot and green. |
In photosynthesis plants take in CO2 and H2O to make their food, glucose. The future won't be to green, we usually destroy plants.
I saw on the NASA channel that recently there had been a lot of solar wing released, a large amount of anything in the atmosphere should protect us from that, because the radiation has to get through the gases in the atmosphere to get to us. A good example of the atmosphere stopping solar radiation from getting to us is aura borealis. |
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| Raymond K |
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| I also heard that air pollution, at least in the form of Co2, can actually make plants grow faster |
That is true, C02 is a limiting factor in plant growth. So an increase in atmospheric C02 creates a boost in plant growth. This can be a double edge thought, true that it can create a wet, hot and green future...but also, the oceans absorb huge concentrations of C02. Algae, in the ocean is another plant and requires C02 for growth, but this one can quickly multiply and turn a region of the ocean or a closed body of water into a dead zone. Since they multiply so rapidly they can't be eaten by the local fish population at the rate they grow, so they feed on all the nutrients, steal the oxygen of the water and leave the area a green barren slop.. |
Alge would multiply, but that would allow what is next in the food chain to multiply as well. There would still be plenty of oxygen because many photosynthetic oxygen producers (plankton?) live in the ocean and use CO2 and produce O2. |
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| This will really be great,but i think we have to work on developing and sustaining our environment to fight aganstpollution |
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| anwahp |
| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:17 pm Post subject: SCIENCE |
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Hi good day
Hi everyone this forum is talk about science. According to my teacher before that earth made by God but we all know that already. Therefore we should care our surroundings especially to the pollution. Besides peoples do the things that make pollution because of there wheels and etc. We can prevent this from the pollution we should not abuse it.
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I just found this on one of the sites I'm subscribed to. Several scientists think they have found a way to deal with air born pollutants using duckweed. http://www.physorg.com/news134744950.html. Though in the article it also says Duckweed reduces algae. I recall reading, not that long ago, that several scientists were considering using vast amounts of algae to combat global warming and the CO2 levels in the atmosphere (Though the article also said that it would cause several other pollutants as well.).
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I'm wary of duckweed. It short circuits pond life by blanketing the surface and blocking light. It puts oxygen into the air not the water. Fish gulp it but spit the tough little floaters out... repeat repeat repeat. The individual weeds have a long lifespan too. So what you get is this volume of dead water with nothing really happening beneath the surface... just waterfowl and their poop.
Good thing ducks mow it so effectively.
If we want duckweed on a vast scale we'll have to mow the ducks.
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How about kelp? If we're talking "vast" salt not fresh is the way to go. Kelp fronds are mostly submerged so they don't snuff ecology like true floaters. We can promote kelp, fairly cheaply, without culling some other species. Because kelp requires anchorage but much seabed offers just mud and sand, an artificial kelp forest is simply wide mesh net or even rubble. Kelp forests harbour reef-like diversity and even shelter calving humpbacks. There's a lot more going on. |
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| Raymond K |
| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: SCIENCE |
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| anwahp wrote: |
Hi good day
Hi everyone this forum is talk about science. According to my teacher before that earth made by God but we all know that already. Therefore we should care our surroundings especially to the pollution. Besides peoples do the things that make pollution because of there wheels and etc. We can prevent this from the pollution we should not abuse it.
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| Raymond K |
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| Pong wrote: |
| How about kelp? If we're talking "vast" salt not fresh is the way to go. Kelp fronds are mostly submerged so they don't snuff ecology like true floaters. We can promote kelp, fairly cheaply, without culling some other species. Because kelp requires anchorage but much seabed offers just mud and sand, an artificial kelp forest is simply wide mesh net or even rubble. Kelp forests harbour reef-like diversity and even shelter calving humpbacks. There's a lot more going on. |
Then what would we use to make shushi? |
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