| Pick a number |
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25% |
[ 4 ] |
| 2758175961 |
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31% |
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| 8294785628 |
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31% |
[ 5 ] |
| 4091759280 |
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12% |
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| chamilton333 |
 Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: New Randomness Expieriment |
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Ok, here it is. you have probobly heard of the randomness experiment. here is it again, with a little twist. instead of 1,2,3,and 4, im using random big numbers, and i will see if the curve is the same. if it is, i will conclude that the curve is due to the order the numbers are presented in. vote now! 
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| SealOtter |
| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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u can conclude that my vote was because of the order    that the numbers are in because my choices usually are (the first of the list)
this makes me think though... there is no such thing as randomness... |
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| Pendragon |
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| SealOtter wrote: |
this makes me think though... there is no such thing as randomness... |
Could very well be correct 
Yea it's getting increasingly likely that the order the options are presented in determines the outcome. Would be interesting to see what happens if the options could be presented in a different shape (options arranged in a circle for example), but that's probably impossible. |
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| chamilton333 |
| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:50 am Post subject: |
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| Pendragon wrote: |
| SealOtter wrote: |
this makes me think though... there is no such thing as randomness... |
Could very well be correct
Yea it's getting increasingly likely that the order the options are presented in determines the outcome. Would be interesting to see what happens if the options could be presented in a different shape (options arranged in a circle for example), but that's probably impossible. |
I might be able too, since HTML is enabled. I might be able to get a poll in that way. ill try it now..
ah it didnt work.. this doesnt take javascript........
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| Jellybird |
| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Picking random numbers?? What all this about?? |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| So, what if anything was the purpose of this thread? |
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| Pendragon |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: |
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The purpose is nothing less than trying to figure out whether humans can act randomly
A computer program can be made which gives random output which results in a roughly equal distribution of choices. But can humans really do this better? The above poll should ideally give a 25%-25%-25%-25% outcome, but previous polls failed to do this. |
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| SealOtter |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| Megabrain wrote: |
| So, what if anything was the purpose of this thread? |
what is the purpose of your post? |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| The poll size is insufficient to be conclusive, as I remember it there are some formula to determine the sample size required in order to calculate the margin of error. Long since forgotten by me... |
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| Pendragon |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Megabrain wrote: |
| The poll size is insufficient to be conclusive, as I remember it there are some formula to determine the sample size required in order to calculate the margin of error. Long since forgotten by me... |
True, but Randomness Experiment Part II actually came very close to this with over 50 votes. So given enough time we'll reach a good sample size, and we'll answer once and for all whether humans can act randomly or not |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Curiously there is a mathematical probability that giving each person 3 votes might be more random, but even you can't do that! |
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