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| leohopkins |
 Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:14 am Post subject: Masturbation |
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Okay.......laugh if you will. Everybody does it. But can it or could it be addictive ? Is it possible for it to be classed as an "addiction".
Not so long ago I thought that I had an addiction to pornography, but that eveidently does not seem to be the case, although I used pornography as an "aid" to masturbation, I no longer look at pornography that much at all but still find myself masturbating as frequently as I did before. There have been times in the past when I have turned down sex from my wife, because I have prefered to masturbate. I also used to be under then very false impression that the "harder" the pornography I viewed the more intense the orgasm would be. Bloody stupid !!
Anyway........I do not look at pornography much these days as I said, but I still find myself masturbating as frequently as before. so thats why I think that it was never pornography I was addicted to, it is actual masturbation that im addicted to. does anyone know from a physiological / psychological perspective why this occurs?
This is a serious question guys, and a very sensitive issue for me, so PLEASE dont take the piss. Thanks
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| captaincaveman |
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im not sure if addictions the word, but habit forming definetly, its classed as a form of sex addiction, but im not sure is thats just the terminology rather than the actual case
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| marnixR |
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agree with cavey, habit yes, addiction no
as to preferring masturbation over sex : the likely reason is that sex involves a lot more than just the aim of having an orgasm - it is after all the interaction between 2 individuals, and sex can only be claimed to be satisfactory if both people involved are satisfied with it
whereas masturbation is pretty straightforward : there's only you and yourself to please
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| captaincaveman |
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| marnixR wrote: |
agree with cavey, habit yes, addiction no
as to preferring masturbation over sex : the likely reason is that sex involves a lot more than just the aim of having an orgasm - it is after all the interaction between 2 individuals, and sex can only be claimed to be satisfactory if both people involved are satisfied with it
whereas masturbation is pretty straightforward : there's only you and yourself to please |
masturbations a selfish act, that being one of its benefits 
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| Chemboy |
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Orgasm is accompanied by the release of oxytocin, so there are chemicals involved, but from what I can tell, it doesn't cause dependency.
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| Kolt |
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All men are cavemen as far as I'm concerned.
I have discoverd that mastrubation is a lot like eating. When I eat I hunch down, lower my head, tear strips of meat form the bone and guzzle it down with ale. And what do I think about when I eat? Nothing really. I just eat. It is little more than a mechanical process and I think that in general, masturbating tends to be no different. It's just something that men do.
MarnixR makes a good point. Masturbation is NOT Sex. This is a simple concept that women often have difficulty understanding.
The wife catches the husband masturbating -
Wife: "I can't believe you would rather do that then be with me! Whats wrong with me? Do you not find me attractive anymore? It's because I've gained ten pounds isn't it! Admit it! You think I'm undesirable don't you!"
Husband: "No, it's not any of that"
Wife: "Well...then why do you do it? I mean, what do you think about while your doing it?"
Husband: "Oh, ya know...money, breast, engines, your mother, the cuban missile crises, Princess Leia wearing that little metal bikini....you know, just what ever pops in there really."
Most of the time there is nothing too deep or profound going on inside a guys head while he's playin' with his joy-stick. It's basically just whatever image triggers the physical response. And half the time those images don't really resonate afterwards either. Have you ever been thinking about something in particular - playing a specific fantasy over and over again in your head - while your self serving and after you finish you go back to that fantasy and your like "Why was I thinking about that? Thats not arousing. Hell, that doesn't even make any sense. Why was she wearing that big red hat? And who were all those chinese people? That was just stupid".
Chicks tend to think that we men are scheming world domination while we masturbate. But for us guys, it's a trivial matter. As is watching porn. Every time I watch a porno my intellect goes right out the window. Like a dog licking it's balls - There is no soul searching or deep introspective inquiry. And shame is simply not a factor.
As for extensive masturbation, I'm not gonna' say it's healthy - I'm not gonna' say it's unhealthy. If it is affecting your marriage, relationship or social life in general then it might be a good idea to take a little vacation from yourself for a while. But if your just....having one of those weeks....then I really don't think it's a big deal. |
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| Dimension |
| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Actually almost all primates masturbate. Male or female. I think an orgasm is just one of those basic animal needs. And just like eating, some people need to do it more than others.
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Well, it's apparently possible to become addicted to sex, so I don't see why it can't also be possible for masturbation. (Funny, I never thought I'd actually be typing that word on a science forum...  )
Why? You worried yer turning into a Sexy Loser? (Don't look confused, go look it up...)
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| Jeremyhfht |
| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: Masturbation |
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Warning: Long-winded opinion. Yes, I intellectualized a topic on masturbation. God I'm such a geek...on another note, most of this post made my head yell "TMI! TMI!!!!". What you guys get away with nowdays...
| leohopkins wrote: |
| But can it or could it be addictive ? Is it possible for it to be classed as an "addiction". |
People tend to be excessively liberal with their definition of "addiction" in recent years. Liberal definitions of some people claim I am "addicted" to the internet. Is it addiction, or merely that I can get most of what I need from it? Body/mental need compared to body/mental wants. Sexual release is a need, and without masturbation we would probably have more rape.
My definition is much more conservative. It's not addiction as long as it's within the realms of what your body needs. Some people can masturbate 19 times a day without difficulty. Others once a month.
Another thing masturbation does that can't be reproduced. Fantasies. A surprising number of people look into anything from unorthodox to downright illegal-in-real-life fantasies. One subculture in particular being Furries.
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| There have been times in the past when I have turned down sex from my wife, because I have prefered to masturbate. |
That's quite simple.
Goals of each -
Masturbating: Orgasm.
Sex: Pleasure.
The latter can be a lot more stressful to achieve. Sometimes it's just easier to masturbate as a form of release. Married couples usually still masturbate regardless of how much sex they have because of this.
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does anyone know from a physiological / psychological perspective why this occurs? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation
A good place to start is _SCIENCE_. You are not addicted. Just doing what your body wants by evolution.
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| Theoryofrelativity |
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you need to check out 'Happeh' theory, find link via my blog.
I think it's happeh.com
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| Jeremyhfht |
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| Theoryofrelativity wrote: |
you need to check out 'Happeh' theory, find link via my blog.
I think it's happeh.com |
Please, PLEASE, tell me you're joking. That make me laugh, so I assume that's why it's called "happeh".
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| Theoryofrelativity |
| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: Masturbation |
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| leohopkins wrote: |
Okay.......laugh if you will. Everybody does it. But can it or could it be addictive ? Is it possible for it to be classed as an "addiction".
Not so long ago I thought that I had an addiction to pornography, but that eveidently does not seem to be the case, although I used pornography as an "aid" to masturbation, I no longer look at pornography that much at all but still find myself masturbating as frequently as I did before. There have been times in the past when I have turned down sex from my wife, because I have prefered to masturbate. I also used to be under then very false impression that the "harder" the pornography I viewed the more intense the orgasm would be. Bloody stupid !!
Anyway........I do not look at pornography much these days as I said, but I still find myself masturbating as frequently as before. so thats why I think that it was never pornography I was addicted to, it is actual masturbation that im addicted to. does anyone know from a physiological / psychological perspective why this occurs?
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are you fairly effeminate in your outward behaviour, so much so that people think you are gay?
If you are then your exessive masturbating is (IMO) part responsible for this. Refraining from masturabtion is what aids a more masculine presentation of self. The more masturbation, the less masculine. I would be most interested to know your reply on this.
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| Theoryofrelativity |
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| Jeremyhfht wrote: |
| Theoryofrelativity wrote: |
you need to check out 'Happeh' theory, find link via my blog.
I think it's happeh.com |
Please, PLEASE, tell me you're joking. That make me laugh, so I assume that's why it's called "happeh". |
No one knows if Happeh is serious or pulling our plonkers. His stuff has some relationship with reality so it's very hard to tell. Fascinating blogs though!
On topic, accpording to Hppeh theory excessive masturabtion makes you go limp (crippled) etc and he uses a statue to demonsrate how this affliction looks. To me the 'pose' of the statue resembled that of an effeminate man. Not a cripple as Happeh suggests.
The reason I think more masturabtion = less masculine behaviour is that I
knew a guy who masturabted perhaps 4 times a day, was as straight as a dye BUT hugely effeminate. If he wanted to pull a female at the weekend, he'd refrain from all masturabtion so that he was more MANLY in his approach and behaviour by the end of the week.
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Theory, I advise you cast aside myth and lore and start looking into the science of it. You aren't stupid enough to think he's 100% serious, but you're ignorant (ill educated) enough to believe some myth. Which is understandable (It happens to me often, if you check recent posts...)
It does not make to effeminate. A large majority of men (and women, estimated a lot more than statistics show because women lie about it more often) masturbate. Men usually more, but at the extreme I've heard of people masturbating 18 times a day (comfortably, no less). These aren't your "hugely effeminate" types, they're average people with a high sex drive.
Masturbating is, in fact, quite healthy for the human body. Almost every animal that can do it does it, as well (primates especially). If you will read wikipedia at least, you'll find tons of scientific work has been done on the subject to disspell the ignorance (those older, however, are usually left out of the loop. No offense).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation
And while I feel largely uncomfortable talking about it and providing links, I feel it's for the better education of everyone...even though on this...highly unusual topic.
http://www.jackinworld.com/library/myths.html
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| Theoryofrelativity |
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What tree are you barking up Jeremy?
I wasn't quoting Happeh theory or myth I was thinking of my hugely effeminate pal and his 'transformation' to masculine after a reduction in wanking. Yes let's call a spade a spade.
But I am prepared to accept he is not representative of all 'wankers' out there.
Meanwhile I do know wanking is normal. I don't recall stating otherwise.
*deleted follwing wise crack incase the powers that be consider it a flame...please note it was hugely funny!!!!!!!!*
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