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| marine(uc) |
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: I have proven faster then light is an impossibility |
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okay based on the theory of reletivity light will always go the same speed, even if your going the speed of light and you turn on a light it will move away from you. but from a fixed point of reference it will move the normal speed of light.
Now people always talk about needing to find a way to move faster then light to travel to distant stars.
BUT it is impossible. because even if we were to be able to go faster then light through some imaginary means, we would just go the speed of light no matter how much faster we were going.
BECAUSE, time slows down to equal the speed of light the faster your going. so if you were going faster then light, time would just slow you down so ur acually just going the speed of light.. just like it does to light right now.
but this is just my theory. _________________ to discover is to create. |
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition |
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:44 am Post subject: |
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So your previous theory that you stated about time travel makes no sense. Why would you say that now after saying that? _________________ "Victory is in trying. Defeat is in not". - SVRDW. |
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| leohopkins |
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:02 am Post subject: Re: I have proven faster then light is an impossibility |
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| marine(uc) wrote: |
okay based on the theory of reletivity light will always go the same speed, even if your going the speed of light and you turn on a light it will move away from you. but from a fixed point of reference it will move the normal speed of light.
Now people always talk about needing to find a way to move faster then light to travel to distant stars.
BUT it is impossible. because even if we were to be able to go faster then light through some imaginary means, we would just go the speed of light no matter how much faster we were going.
BECAUSE, time slows down to equal the speed of light the faster your going. so if you were going faster then light, time would just slow you down so ur acually just going the speed of light.. just like it does to light right now.
but this is just my theory. |
Good thinking but not quite. IF you COULD travel at the exact same speed of light then, time for you would stop. Photons do not experience time. Also, time dilation is not relevant to C. _________________ The hand of time rested on the half-hour mark, and all along that old front line of the English there came a whistling and a crying. The men of the first wave climbed up the parapets, in tumult, darkness, and the presence of death, and having done with all pleasant things, advanced across No Man's Land to begin the Battle of the Somme. - Poet John Masefield.
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| marine(uc) |
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition wrote: |
| So your previous theory that you stated about time travel makes no sense. Why would you say that now after saying that? |
thats if time travel was possible. this is all theoretical, and under certain situations.
I acually thought of this while i was writing the last one.
this is my theory on why it isn't possible
the other was based on a principle of it being possible. _________________ to discover is to create.
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| marine(uc) |
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:05 am Post subject: Re: I have proven faster then light is an impossibility |
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| leohopkins wrote: |
| marine(uc) wrote: |
okay based on the theory of reletivity light will always go the same speed, even if your going the speed of light and you turn on a light it will move away from you. but from a fixed point of reference it will move the normal speed of light.
Now people always talk about needing to find a way to move faster then light to travel to distant stars.
BUT it is impossible. because even if we were to be able to go faster then light through some imaginary means, we would just go the speed of light no matter how much faster we were going.
BECAUSE, time slows down to equal the speed of light the faster your going. so if you were going faster then light, time would just slow you down so ur acually just going the speed of light.. just like it does to light right now.
but this is just my theory. |
Good thinking but not quite. IF you COULD travel at the exact same speed of light then, time for you would stop. Photons do not experience time. Also, time dilation is not relevant to C. |
what you said was just as much theory as what i said. _________________ to discover is to create. |
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Am I right in saying that time itself doesn't slow down the closer you reach the speed of light, it only seems like it? I don't know, but somehow that makes more sense to me  _________________ "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms."
-- Albert Einstein
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings."
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| BumFluff |
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. I didn't know Einstein posted in these forums. He was after all the one who came up with this theory. _________________ "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt" - Bertrand Russell |
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| Schizo |
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:56 am Post subject: |
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I think traveling faster than the speed of light is feasible... with my soon to be patented technology.
I call it the N.E.R.D. drive.... and I am serious about the name it is a real acronym...
Ok maybe it is not going to be patented anytime soon... because I just have an idea which may just be a flight of fancy... However the name is sticking no matter how many people dislike it, even if it has to be brought about in a sci-fi novel, because thats where my idea will end up probably... = (
Seriously though with just my imagination I have thought of a means to travel faster than light using a vessel... a space vessel.
Boo YA! _________________ www.myspace.com/schizopup
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| Ophiolite |
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Since we are in Philosophical Discussion and not Physics, I do not need to move this thread - at least not right away.
Staying with the philosophy angle, may I ask you marine(uc) what prompts you to 'come up with a theory'?
I am reminded of a story about Einstein. He was at a dinner, sat next to a gentlemen who periodically took out a small notebook and entered a few words. Einstein finally asked the man what he was doing. "Whenever I have a good idea I just right it down. You ought to do the same thing."
Einstein thought for a moment, then replied, "It wouldn't be worth it. I have only had one or two good ideas in my whole life." _________________ The Universe is not only weirder than we imagine it is weirder than we can imagine. J.B.S.Haldane. |
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| Cold Fusion |
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow. I didn't know Einstein posted in these forums. He was after all the one who came up with this theory. |
That's what I was going to say.
Yeah, its not your theory. You only repeated a couple of well known facts. _________________ Forget all that you know, achievements can only be accomplished by starting from nothing and selectively applying facts that are purely objective and absolutely necessary.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence"
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| Absum! |
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:52 am Post subject: |
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: |
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There is a God. _________________ "Victory is in trying. Defeat is in not". - SVRDW. |
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:12 am Post subject: |
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| There is a God. |
And there isn't.
All truths are dichotomous. |
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition |
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:50 am Post subject: |
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 The Doctor
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What about octupus'?  _________________ "Victory is in trying. Defeat is in not". - SVRDW. |
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