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Megabrain
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Homouniversalis. Reply with quote

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If nobody has the balls to ban Solomon Grundy, grant me temporarily the power and I'll do it for you. Then perhaps The Science Forum might regain some respect.
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Could you provide a post that you found going against the rules where he wasn't trolled into it by - per example - you?
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MB; There is nothing that bores me more than *one liner* arguments. I have had some long interactions with such people and found them extremely irritating, but never intolerable.

SG is a member of Sherdog.com, a Martial Arts forum and has some 2000 plus post, all one liners, but among people who also post ONE LINERS.

Q is such a person and there have been a few others, recently. My personal attitude is to ignore, which if everyone did, that poster would simply leave the forum, from boredom. On the other hand some advance to discussion which is whats forums are about, by the way Q seems to be doing.

In another post I mentioned TOLERANCE, which is hard for a person who as achieved success to accept. The problem is many folks are not at your level in achievement or education. Cosmo would be a good example, who has become a force for his SSU ideas, over years while advancing his theory. In fact he has quite a following in some rather difficult forums, where accepted theory alone was allowed...
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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J33,

No I wouldn't actually ban SG, but I might cut some of his posts from the more serious threads.
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Ignore button does still work does it not ?

I also find the one liners annoying and mostly lacking any real thoughtfulness. Once in a while however that's all that needs to be said.

Perhaps we need a "How to deal with your emotions" forum Smile
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jackson33 wrote:
...who also post ONE LINERS.

Q is such a person and there have been a few others, recently. My personal attitude is to ignore, which if everyone did, that poster would simply leave the forum, from boredom. On the other hand some advance to discussion which is whats forums are about, by the way Q seems to be doing.


Interesting. The fact that one may succinctly get a point across in fewer words is deemed to be ignored. Yet, are we to give the attention required by those who overindulge in nonsensical musings?
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Interesting. The fact that one may succinctly get a point across in fewer words is deemed to be ignored. Yet, are we to give the attention required by those who overindulge in nonsensical musings?
The thing is, one-liners are alot of the times not enough to tell us exactly where our nonsensical musings turn nonsensical. Simply saying something clashes with "this" theory does not tell us in what aspects it clashes.
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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KALSTER wrote:
The thing is, one-liners are alot of the times not enough to tell us exactly where our nonsensical musings turn nonsensical. Simply saying something clashes with "this" theory does not tell us in what aspects it clashes.


Agreed, unless the one-liner did in fact point out the flaw to the argument.
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Your all wrong Wink
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(Q) wrote:

Interesting. The fact that one may succinctly get a point across in fewer words is deemed to be ignored. Yet, are we to give the attention required by those who overindulge in nonsensical musings?


What any one person calls "nonsensical" will differ from another. In responding to a post, you can usually assume I disagree (to degree), why else bother. This means giving some outline, from where I come. When being answered, simply calling me a name, means nothing to the issue which is assumed I have interest in. Many times to many posters, you have done just that, or answered in such vague science terms, its hard to assume you have any science back ground, whether self learned or formal. On this I feel its your years of replies, on the same topics based on what ever has been learned from those that you could agree with.

Now, with the above "nonsensical musings"; No, many times fewer words lead no where and the poster being answered feels either brushed off or that you did not understand. Then no solution gained...
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Agreed, unless the one-liner did in fact point out the flaw to the argument.
On the other hand, I can sympathise with the use of one-liners when it comes to people that just won’t give up, no matter what you come up with to refute them, i.e.IDiots. I guess the same happens when someone argues a point contrary to current sound theories and keep on raising the same points in turn, even after being previously corrected. I also recognize that it could get tiresome continuously addressing the same rehashed arguments from different posters. I guess it comes as part of the package of you being considered a reliable assigner of stamps of approval or denial. Wink
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I personally believe that it would not occur if when someone is corrected that the person correcting does not hurt the pride of the person being corrected, because we all have pride and for a man to lose his pride he becomes angry and thus has to start a new argument which may not be entirley relevant to the specific thread. So lets me nice people Very Happy.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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HomoUniversalis wrote:
Could you provide a post that you found going against the rules where he wasn't trolled into it by - per example - you?


Oh HomoU

So now trolling is a reaction caused by others who aren't following the rules?.....oh dear there's a bizarre bit of logic.....it always amazes me how folk bend and twist and contort their beliefs and arguments to suit a belief only to bend and twist it back again to suit another one.

What double standards and weird ideas some of the mods here have.

Shame Megabrain has left the building he seemed the only one that had any sense or standards on here.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Minxy wrote:
HomoUniversalis wrote:
Could you provide a post that you found going against the rules where he wasn't trolled into it by - per example - you?


Oh HomoU

So now trolling is a reaction caused by others who aren't following the rules?


Perhaps you should reread my post. I said 'trolled into it'. As in, someone elicited such a response. He's not being a troll, he's sometimes being harsh, but rarely without someone 'trolling him into it,' i.e. insulting him.

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.....oh dear there's a bizarre bit of logic.....it always amazes me how folk bend and twist and contort their beliefs and arguments to suit a belief only to bend and twist it back again to suit another one.

What double standards and weird ideas some of the mods here have.

Shame Megabrain has left the building he seemed the only one that had any sense or standards on here.


Oh, put a cork in it. No one here has been given as much leniency as you have, minx.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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KALSTER wrote:
On the other hand, I can sympathise with the use of one-liners when it comes to people that just won’t give up, no matter what you come up with to refute them, i.e.IDiots. I guess the same happens when someone argues a point contrary to current sound theories and keep on raising the same points in turn, even after being previously corrected. I also recognize that it could get tiresome continuously addressing the same rehashed arguments from different posters. I guess it comes as part of the package of you being considered a reliable assigner of stamps of approval or denial. Wink


That's pretty much the extent of it. Sometimes a one liner is meant for the person to stop and think about what they said and see if they recognize the flaw in their argument.
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