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| Hanuka |
 Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:49 am Post subject: Homemade eXplosives!! xD |
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Say.. can ya guys post here some explosive recepies that I can
make with common(and not-so-common) household items??
Currently I know only one recepie which is mix a bit of amonia with few
iod crystals, leave it to dry for a few hours then ya get a touch-sensetive
mild explosive powder xD
Do ya have others which are more powerful??
plzzz post 
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:28 am Post subject: Re: Homemade eXplosives!! xD |
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| Hanuka wrote: |
| Say.. can ya guys post here some explosive recepies that I can make with common(and not-so-common) household items?? |
The most common one to start with is just ordinary table salt. But I won't give you any recipies as this is most likely against forum rules. And pleeeeeeeeezzzzzze....don't refer to the "Anarchist Cookbook" as this thing is so full of blatantly obvious errors that it's not even funny and following the procedures described there will result in a loss of appendages. If you wanna play with explosives, join the army. I guess in your case it's the draft anyway so what the heck.
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Currently I know only one recepie which is mix a bit of amonia with few iod crystals, leave it to dry for a few hours then ya get a touch-sensetive mild explosive powder xD
Do ya have others which are more powerful??
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I would call something with a velocity of detonation (VOD) well in excess of 5000 m/s not necessarily "mild". Nitrogentriiodide is something I would stay away from as far as possible if I were you. Even breaking up larger crystals of NI3 can cause them to detonate. Given your - obvious - lack of knowledge in chemistry you'd most likely kill yourself and/or others in this process.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Hm... Anarchist's cookbook? sounds tasty 
can ya gimme a link to it?
btw, i'm looking for explosives that make bang that thats it. not make bang and then destroy half of the street...
btw, if ya want to have some pretty kwel destructive power then if
I recall correctly, the recepy for thermite is about 1/4kg gound aluminium foil per 1kg of iron oxide(rust)... then ya use a magnezium stripe or a
simple fuze to light it up, is that correct?
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It's also the "good" scientists that get to blow shit up. I mean this guy is definitely a certified nutcase but he's got cool videos of explosions on his website. And if you dig deep enough, you'll find some explanations where e.g the Mach Y stem during a nuclear blast comes from.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:44 pm Post subject: Improvised Munitions Handbook |
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| Hanuka |
| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: Re: Improvised Munitions Handbook |
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Pretty cool book, I might get that one. looks very practical in the field
btw, is it the full book there? or just sampels?
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| Good gravy Hanuka, you really want to snag a visit from the friendly neighbourhood Mossad. You wanna get stung? In my country, agents pay and goad guys like you to further incriminate themselves. |
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What's the harm knowing a bit about explosives before joining the army?? :/
and everyone knows that proper knowledge comes from experimanting
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| I believe it's the full book. If you search long and hard enough, you'll come across a PDF version. I can give it to you but I'm not sure if I can post it up as I can see how it may violate a few rules. |
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| Hanuka wrote: |
| What's the harm knowing a bit about explosives before joining the army?? :/ |
Not very much. If you do not get your knowledge from a book that states:....."unless you have had professional training in chemistry and/or explosives manufacture, do not attempt (italics from the original) any of the procedures in this manual.
This entire Book was written with the assumption that the circumstances when this information is needed, a certain amount of risk to life is acceptable (highlight by me). None of the procedures in this manual could truly be called safe, but in dire times, safety is a luxury we may not be able to afford."
And judging from my experience with energetic materials I can only second this. And the starting materials in this manual also aren't what I would call "household chemicals" as they start their compositions from e.g. materials like picric acid, ammonium nitrate and hydrazine.
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| and everyone knows that proper knowledge comes from experimanting |
Yes, but in the case of energetic materials any screw-up might be the final roll call. I know I'm a spoilsport but the only advice I can give you is: Stay away from self-manufactured explosives. I did some experimenting myself (when I was young and dumb) but only with BP and the like and I am glad that I still have all my appendages. Misshaps DO happen and I was a lucky bastard to suffer only burnt-off hair and some 2nd degree burns at the hands and forearms.
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Thanks Jane.
But I do not recommend making explosives, until you are interested in safety first. Because any explosive can end your life.
A lot of times around the Forth of July especially as a kid, you want to mimic a great display you saw put on by an adult or expert.
It is normal, it is actually American. However what is usually missing is going over the rules of safety and handling of explosives. The accident down in Florida, where professionals were killed is a well known accident. A bit of friction from heavy moving equipment and the whole works go up. Often humidity can add to the danger. It can change the way heat is displaced and offer oxygen to chemicals in the fireworks.
Most kids around me experimented with match bombs, usually with paper, sometimes escalating to electrical tape and even the dreaded and truly crazy pipe bomb. The pipe bomb is a very crazy device unless you are demonstrating it for safety purposes, or need it to defend your home, in case of invasion.
A pipe bomb will blow holes right through many walls of steel. It is made with nothing more then cut off match tips. However it is totally lethal within a three foot radius. It is one of the most overlooked devices.
It is often made accidentally, because many do not understand just how serious it is. It is a serious weapon, not a toy, not a firecracker, not something a crazy bastard like me would make for fun. And I am as out on the edge as they come.
I work on sky scrapers walking on parapet walls with no harness, many stories up. I have hauled radio active materials, as well as explosives, and even tankers filled with nitro glycerin.
But I would not make a pipe bomb for fun. One thing you have to watch out for is that the matches are a mixture of oxides.
When you thread pipe, you use rape oil or a cheap cutting oil. Those two substances alone are a no, no under pressure. A tapered pipe thread offers the best kind of pressure. If your matches leave the slightest residue they can mix with oil from the cutting process and create the pop that will light or detonate your bomb, right in what will be the blown off hand.
I just say no to pipe bombs. Unless it is to stand up for your American rights.
You might even want to watch wrapping up explosives in black electrical tape. One reason is the high dielectric value of the electrical tape can cause a much unexpected blast. Very power, powerful enough to remove large areas of asphalt. Maybe your hand or head.
So before you go out and build anything. Definitely come to a place like this and discuss it. I love bombs and explosives. I have had the bomb squad come to my house to remove experiments that went terribly wrong. So I am not just saying don't play with anything dangerous. I am saying when you find something that works well, it is often to late.
I almost killed a friend a long time ago, when I did not realize the energy contained in a certain kind of children's caps. I blew away a large portion of the street. And sent parts of the street into houses around.
So if you have a project or idea definitely stop over here and e-mail me and I will let you know the ups and downs of doing it. Honestly in the spirit of America and American safety.
This is less then one cubic foot of well mixed ordinary gases. Most would not believe it contains this kind of power. It does. This blast fractured a thick heavy clay flower pot. Bent metal, and set off car alarms in a quarter mile radius. The gas is lighter then air. And fits into a small office waste paper pail.
http://www.Rockwelder.com/Explosives/blast2.wmv
This blast would easily lift a piece of metal to lethal speeds. So before you play around talk about safety. That is a large piece of metal flying away. I was thirty feet away, the shock wave hit me in the chest with a powerful chest burning blast. And damaged the camera. Just from ordinary gases.
Sometimes the poor kids find the most horrific accidents. Burning wax coated paper, from spent fire crackers. The wax vapor can create a very powerful explosion. Most do not know however wax is a super, solid form of methane. When heated in moist summer air, it can create horrific accidents, by lifting objects and hurling them.
Sincerely,
William McCormick
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