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| Hanuka |
 Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:57 am Post subject: H4xx0r1ng |
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Say... Is there a pretty easy way to learn how to brake to others`
computers? like at least for local ones for start...
I hear there be alot of kwel hacking programs out there but I'm afraid that
ya need to have some hacking knowledge before ya can use them...
does anyone of ya knows where I can get a "refined" knowledge like this?
I mean, without all tha complicated stuffz that come with it... :/
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| CShark |
| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:56 am Post subject: Re: H4xx0r1ng |
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| Hanuka wrote: |
Say... Is there a pretty easy way to learn how to brake to others`
computers? like at least for local ones for start...
I hear there be alot of kwel hacking programs out there but I'm afraid that
ya need to have some hacking knowledge before ya can use them...
does anyone of ya knows where I can get a "refined" knowledge like this?
I mean, without all tha complicated stuffz that come with it... :/ |
There is a name for people who don't want to learn about how this is done...script kiddies. They download something, then think they are a 'hacker'! No, there is no way to take a shortcut in this, any more than say...playing the guitar as opposed to playing guitar hero. One is real, the other not. |
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| SuperNatendo |
| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, you can easily become script kiddies, but the REAL hackers are the ones you never hear about, they live on a whole different planet than the rest of us, the world is at their fingertips. Script kiddies go to jail when their caught, hackers get a job.
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| Hanuka |
| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:38 am Post subject: |
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haha! 
Well then tell me where I can teach meself (from home) how not to be a scrip kiddie, but be an eXtreme H4xx0r!!!!!!!! 
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| Pong |
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| Hanuka wrote: |
| how not to be a scrip kiddie, but be an eXtreme H4xx0r!!!!!!!! |
You're not reading. Hackers aren't bound by a set of tools or techniques, and don't normally break stuff. A hacker, in essence, is someone who does what "can't" be done, for the sake of the challenge. Most hackers do "charitable" work - they invent and give away code that makes other coders wonder, "Why didn't I think of that?" You do this enough, other hackers recognize your ability, and you may wear the badge if you like.
So first you need to learn what can be done. Learn how computers work, learn to program. |
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| bit4bit |
| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: H4xx0r1ng |
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| Hanuka wrote: |
does anyone of ya knows where I can get a "refined" knowledge like this?
I mean, without all tha complicated stuffz that come with it... :/ |
That's the essence of it, "all the complicated stuff that comes with it". Same as any thing...if you aren't prepared to read/work, then you get nowhere. As pong said, learn how to progam, learn about computers and computer networks.
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| DivideByZero |
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| SuperNatendo |
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No,
In fact, usually the script kiddies have the highest ratio of "Bad" ""*Hackers*""
There is a bad problem of china and terrorist countries hiring Hackers to try and hurt the US economy by bringing servers offline.
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| Softix |
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not at all hackers are bad.
Sometimes government/army hire them to be apart of government/army security. Protect data from stolen. They prevent hacking from outsider with their hacking skills.
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| Pong |
| Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:10 am Post subject: |
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"Hackers" are mostly good people working altruistically. Look at this web page. Who is developing open source, and by extension most software driving the internet?
I don't buy the conspiracy theory that "China and terrorist countries" wage economic warfare on the US by attacking servers. Evidence? |
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| DivideByZero |
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Thanks for the replies.
Didn't think of it that way (good hackers). |
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| SuperNatendo |
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China and terrorist nations do it all the time. I know, I work on infected systems all the time. One of the biggest problems with Microsoft software was that at one point, around 75% of the computers in use on the internet that were running Microsoft had botnet software on them. This software allows hackers to use thousands of machines at one time to flood a server with ping after ping after ping, causing the server to be inaccessible. While large volumes of these botnets were used by spammers, some botnets were indeed created with the intent to take down high profile servers which redirect large volumes of internet traffic. This is called a DDOS attack (Dynamic Denial of Service attack)
Also the Chinese have hacked government computers in order to try to learn information:
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5969516.html
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| Hanuka |
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Hm... so how can I be an extreme Chinese h4xZ0r???? 
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| Pong |
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What has happened - just the facts - is some sensitive US networks have been accessed and the guys who sell protection told your government the threat may originate in China. Also McAfee - in the business of selling protection - warns of Chinese and Russian hackers. Fearmongering? 
You can't honestly conclude that because some attacks were traced to zombie computers in China, the Chinese government ("China") has anything to do with this. Hackers spread viruses to take control of insecure computers, which are then employed to launch concerted attacks. And let's be honest about your typical computer in China: it's loaded with warez and dubious crap, wide open. Yes even business and government in China uses pirate software, everybody knows it, you know it. OK so we can blame "China" for knowingly operating Zombies 'R Us. "China" should buy software not rely on dubious cracked versions. You can fairly label China cybercrime's prime stooge.
If you really must finger "China and terrorist countries" for harboring hacked machines then finger also that country where most hacking attempts originate: the USA. Yeah I know it mostly comes from trailer park script kiddies but to the Chinese victim of these attacks it comes "from the United States", state sponsor one might say. |
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| Softix |
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Skip the hacking man! Its as risky as it is rewarding..maybe even more 
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