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| wallaby |
 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:53 am Post subject: Future Warrior |
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| cosmictraveler |
| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:06 am Post subject: |
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Interesting that a bunch of low tech terrorists can hold a world at bay with their bombings and threats while all this equipment is being used isn't it? The Teliban is also using low tech equipment to keep the US troops guessing where they are and making them look foolish by hit and run tactics. Billions of dollars against pennies is what the great armies of the world are up against today.
The insurgents travel light and use makeshift equipment to keep the well armed armies trying to figure where they will strike again. The insurgents hit soft targets that cause much human tragedy while avoiding the well armed army. It would seem that the monies spoent on the war can't stop the terorists from accomplishing their mission to disrupt the governments and bring fear to the people that are within those countries that are at war. |
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| wallaby |
| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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makeshift and Cheap equipment.
most of the equipment you see them using are your typical AK's and RPG's, ocasionaly you might see a 50. Caliber machine gun or Russian sniper rifle, but mainly just stuff over the black market.
besides it is much harder to fight Gurilla fighters than it is to fight a proper Army. After all the US wrapped up the main Iraqi forces in what... 6 weeks, but it is the Gurilla fighters and insurgents that have done most of the damage. |
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| cosmictraveler |
| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| Then they need to think like the insurgents and do as the terrorists do in order to fight them on their level. All this new fancy equipment won't be able to take many of them out. |
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| spidergoat |
| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:53 am Post subject: |
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| We can't even armor our soldiers today. Most of this technology is pie in the sky stuff from defense contractors. |
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| Cottontop3000 |
| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:14 am Post subject: |
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As an ex-Army officer, you'd all (if you've never served) be surprised at just how fucked-up the Army, at least, really is. I've never been more disillusioned by anything in my life, except maybe for Christianity. "The best army in the world!!" Maybe, but still not at all like what is portrayed in the recruiting ads and propaganda. Utterly political, especially in the officer ranks, utterly bureaucratic, and utterly destructive of those with any real potential as leaders or true soldiers. If you don't want to brown-nose or back-stab to get ahead, stay as far away from the Army, and I would guess most of the other branches as well, as you can.
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| sailor |
| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| If you don't want to brown-nose or back-stab to get ahead, stay as far away from the Army, and I would guess most of the other branches as well, as you can. |
What a frustration. As an Army-officer myself, I know you are partly right about the system. But I believe we need a defence hard in this times.
It is not the equipment, but the motivation of the defenders, that makes the difference against terrorism. And the awareness of the people. |
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| wallaby |
| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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the people are aware of it.
you can't look in a newspapper or watch the news without hearing about Terrorism.
while the equipement may not make a difference on whether the terrorist are brought to justice quicker it may protect soldiers from insurgents and terrorist attacks.
don't you think it would be better to know that if some jackass shot you on the battlefield that it would not nessisarily mean death. |
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| sailor |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:10 am Post subject: |
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| wallaby wrote: |
| while the equipement may not make a difference on whether the terrorist are brought to justice quicker it may protect soldiers from insurgents and terrorist attacks. |
I am happy with every improvement of our equipment. Only, not the soldiers but the civilians have to suffer most by terrorist attacks. Look at New York, Madrid and London. Nobody can tell where terrorists strike next. And when they do, again most casualties will be civilians.
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| don't you think it would be better to know that if some jackass shot you on the battlefield that it would not nessisarily mean death. |
You are rigth for places like Iraq and Afghanistan. |
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| (In)Sanity |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:23 am Post subject: |
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| One of my brothers and his son are both marines, they are both happy with the corp. No offense to the army, but it's not the marines. Not to say the army doesn't play an important role in the world. I'm not sure if they just do a better job brain washing people, but for the most part I've found those that have been in the marines tend to stay very loyal to service for the rest of their lives. I could not say the same about the air force or the army. The navy I'm not sure about. Not everyone makes it as a marine, many of the same could make it in the army or the air force. I really don't feel these are just stereotypes, but I'm also not trying to piss off those who are in the other branches. |
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| sailor |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Not everyone makes it as a marine, many of the same could make it in the army or the air force. I really don't feel these are just stereotypes, but I'm also not trying to piss off those who are in the other branches. |
My father was with the Dutch Marine Corps and before I joint the Army, I was with the Air-force. So I can say something about all these branches. I know, apart from training, there is no big difference between them.
Besides, the branches need to work together in their battle against terrorism and not fight about who is better. If not, we all lose! And the better the equipment, the greater the chance of succes. |
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| wallaby |
| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| As an Australian i don't know much about the Marine corps but why were was Marine Corp created seeing as they seem to do the same job as the Army? |
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| sailor |
| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:38 am Post subject: |
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| wallaby wrote: |
| As an Australian i don't know much about the Marine corps but why were was Marine Corp created seeing as they seem to do the same job as the Army? |
It is an historical difference.  See the following link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine
Nowadays marines and army-soldiers fight side-by-side on the same battlefields. However, traditions make them feel different. |
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| Katulus |
| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:24 am Post subject: |
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My project "ArmeeHelm" could be well used here. Its basicaly a military helmet, hardly penetretable, durable, with visor in front which enables night vision, navigation etc.. data transfer and similar. And looks "intimidating" too (which is very important).
Picture on the first link the topic started gave makles me laugh.. military will never be a comic cartoon sim.. PLASTIC !? It will take a while i see..
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| wallaby |
| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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it always takes time.
i think the altimate goal of the millitary would be to be able to breed or create people specificaly for being soldiers. |
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