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 Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:26 am Post subject: Digital Art or classic [discussion] |
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What do you think is better? Digital art - on the computer, or the classic art - with pens and paper?
Do you think that Digital art will take over the place of the "oldschool" classic art?
please discuss.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Oooh tough call. Luckily for me I noticed your 'I like both option'. I love Digital art and classical art very much the same. I don't think I can pick favourites. Thanks for giving me the third option  .
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Both!
I still feel that Digital art isn't entirely concidered art in the artistic world, which is a shame. Just because something was made utilizing a computer's features seems to imply on most people that it was totally easy and most of it was generated anyway. Oddly, this delusion seems to dissolve the minute you ask them to make something themselves 
That always bugged me, thought I'd get that off my chest.
Anyway, in terms of cleanliness I definitely declare digital art superior, however, not using a computer makes one thing creatively in entirely different areas. In opposition to that the computer allows relative limitless when it comes to creating sculptures and the like; which is better? I think it's comparing ruby and marble.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:54 am Post subject: |
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"Both suck"
Because I prefer craft over art, sculptural over visual. I.e. the artful treatment of nature, over the representation of nature in some artistic medium. LCD image or framed painting on the wall - both are "otherworldly". I rather live in art.
Though perhaps we're beginning to see craftspeople in the virtual world. Are virtual materials worth glorifying for their own sake? Could a very sensitive virtual sculptor bring out the essence of, say, compression artifacts or texture seams? Is pixel and ASCII art craft then?
I don't really feel CG or pen & paper art "suck" but I wanted to point out they're nearly identical, in context of "art" generally. |
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| I like to stand really close and see the brush strokes that Monet put on the canvas. Can't get that feeling with digital art. I like sculpture too, but there isn't anywhere to put it in my living room. I'm thinking about getting a gnome for the front yard. Does that count? |
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I'm the kind of person who'd shout DEATH TO ALL GNOMES in a yardcenter, so I guess I'd be bad advice.
While it's very true that you can't (although I'm sure such printers should be available not too long from now, if there's a market) get those strokes in digital art, hereby abbrev. D.A., there's various other effects you can get without immediately referring to filters and cheap sfx.
I mean, check out Artpad.org <- that just looks good.[/url]
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| Bunbury wrote: |
| I like sculpture too, but there isn't anywhere to put it in my living room. |
To my eye (finish carpenter) the living room and its furnishings is the sculpture. Isn't it funny to set art apart from life, as in a gilded frame? Art is how you set the table.
As yet, CG must be framed or visited in the virtual world, with a few exceptions. Valentine's Day chocolates by Aya Kato:
Her usual, non-interactive:
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Oh, how about this coffecup artist, then?
Check him out, I'm sure you'll like him.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3fOBuKVYbR8
And yeah, art is a lot more than the defined forms of art - and of course, there would be no room for improvisation of method and material; the very nature of art would be contradicted then, right?
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Lovely.  I used to do that for desserts, long time ago at a restaurant job (standard treatment). But the manager didn't like too much creativity.
A CG art student once told me that the hardest thing of all is not snow or trees but coffee mug rings staining a desk. It's an ergonomic study I suppose. |
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weird manager 
what kind of restaurant does not support the staff being creative? a dish to a chef is a painting to a painter. My dad used to be a chef, while I believe it's absolutely necessary to know what your place is, it's not necessary to show others where they stand by limiting them in their abilities. You just say the where, when, how and why; or am I totally off here?
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| Pong wrote: |
| A CG art student once told me that the hardest thing of all is not snow or trees but coffee mug rings staining a desk. |
Ellipses are hard to get right with a paintbrush too.
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The coffee in the youtube video was very pretty, but would be cold by the time a customer go it. I prefer a hot coffee to a pretty one.  |
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Actually, it'd be ready-to-drink
My father worked in a few and owned a restaurant at one point, he did this too. I believe this phenomenon even has a name
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