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| Obviously |
 Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: Can you die of pain? |
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... if you don't have the mechanism that makes you faint? Pain can cause stress etc, so technically, if someone doesn't possess the fainting mechanism, we could get a cardiac arrest or something, right?
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Not exacly that many good answers though 
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Hmmmm, good question. But if you set aside the "fainting"-thingy I guess you can't. You die of one ore more vital structures in your body malfunctioning, you know like the last transmission from Challenger in January 1986...."Huston, we have a major malfun......". There are special pain receptors in your nervous system and you do not die from overexposure to e.g. light or tactile input. And man has come up with some really screwed-up methods to introduce pain in humans but cause of death was most of the time some non-hack torturer that caused massive internal bleedings or excessive burns or somesuch. And those people became really good in what they were doing i.e. causing pain but not too much damage to the body so they could get the least bit of information from those poor "heretics" and the like.
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It's probably possible to die from pain, since it's a physical response in our nervous system that could potentially do us harm.
It has been shown that people can die from plain emotions, and I think pain is more prevalent than an emotion, so...
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| Twaaannnggg wrote: |
| Hmmmm, good question. But if you set aside the "fainting"-thingy I guess you can't. You die of one ore more vital structures in your body malfunctioning, you know like the last transmission from Challenger in January 1986...."Huston, we have a major malfun......". There are special pain receptors in your nervous system and you do not die from overexposure to e.g. light or tactile input. And man has come up with some really screwed-up methods to introduce pain in humans but cause of death was most of the time some non-hack torturer that caused massive internal bleedings or excessive burns or somesuch. And those people became really good in what they were doing i.e. causing pain but not too much damage to the body so they could get the least bit of information from those poor "heretics" and the like. |
I seem to recall that there are people out there that can't faint, but I can't remember. I think I saw a program where people were conscious during surgical operations, but paralized so they couldn't communicate or anything. Since they were paralized during the operation, the body wouldn't react even though it felt pain, so apparantly pain alone doesn't cause death. Though I'm sure it can cause stress as previously stated and then cardiac arrest (if you're not paralized and don't have the fainting mechanism thingy).
Theoretically, it is possible, right?
| Wolf wrote: |
It's probably possible to die from pain, since it's a physical response in our nervous system that could potentially do us harm.
It has been shown that people can die from plain emotions, and I think pain is more prevalent than an emotion, so... |
Technically, broken heart syndrom is caused by pain, perhaps we should take that into consideration?
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Three years ago, I went to the emergency room with appendicitis. I was unlucky enough for this to happen at midnight on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. There was no surgeon there and they could not get one in until 7am. They could not give me anything for pain because they needed to know that I was in pain since that meant that my appendix had not burst. I laid there for eight hours in so much pain I could barely talk. I was gripping the bars on the guard rail just holding on until 8am, when they said I would finally go into surgery. I felt as though I was being tortured. Well, needless to say---I lived.
I think it would depend on the person. How healthy were they before this pain started, how strong is their heart, do they have any blockages in their arteries, etc.
After the surgery, I was in a special care unit for three days. My appendix burst during surgery. But, the main problem was that I was so exhausted from that night, that I was too weak to breath in strong enough to do me any good. On oxygen, I was alright. When they took me off of the oxygen, my oxygen level would drop to 10---I just couldn't seem to drag in enough air on my own to do any good. I think there have been many people who died of pain. I also think that many people have died of exhaustion. |
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I think that pain could potentially cause death.
Pain (now this is a kinda educated guess - for sake of conversation) would probably send the body into overdrive; that is to say sympathetic drive would increases. that's the fight or flight thing, where your heart speeds up, vessels constrict, breathing increases ect. all things that enable us to get away fast.
so if that's the case, excessive pain, if it dose stimulate sympathetic drive would could cause problems that you see every day, like heart failure and high blood pressure.
Now i can only assume if someone is torturing someone, then said someone would be in that fight or flight mode - trying to muster the strength?
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| yes pain can definately cause death. Although you need a certain amount of it for an extended period of time. |
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| BumFluff wrote: |
| yes pain can definately cause death. Although you need a certain amount of it for an extended period of time. |
?? I don't believe that.
I'm thinking of all the decades before anesthesia. People survived limbs being cut off and that seems like it would have to be fairly painful. |
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If it causes you to go into shock it can.
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| They had ether for a good 100 years before good anesthetics too, also most people didn't survive those amputations. |
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| Orleander wrote: |
| BumFluff wrote: |
| yes pain can definately cause death. Although you need a certain amount of it for an extended period of time. |
?? I don't believe that.
I'm thinking of all the decades before anesthesia. People survived limbs being cut off and that seems like it would have to be fairly painful. |
People were given quit a lot of alchohol before haviung their limbs cut off. Though I'm not talking about a limb being cut off or anything like that. I'm talking about torture or pain for an elongated time.
Have you ever heard of water torture? A person is put underneath a dripping water supply and they are left there for a very long time. The water continues to drip in the same spot and eventually that person will go crazy and I'm fairly certain that it can lead to death as well. That is what I'm talking about, torture. |
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