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| jonhays |
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: CAN AMERICA SURVIVE WITHOUT HIDDEN SLAVERY? |
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The definition of slavery in my title I learned from Abraham Lincoln
(1809-65), 16th President of The United States, signer of the 1833
"Emancipation Proclamation" to free African-American slaves, Lincoln
said it in the Seventh and Last Debate with Stephen A. Douglas, Alton,
Illinois, October 15, 1858, the famous debates that put Lincoln on the
road to Presidency: "That is the issue that will continue in this country
when these poor tongues of Judge Douglas and myself shall be silent. It
is the eternal struggle between these two principles -- right and wrong
-- throughout the world. They are the two principles that have stood face
to face from the beginning of time; and will ever continue to struggle.
The one is the common right of humanity and the other the divine right
of kings. It is the same principle in whatever shape it develops itself.
It is the same spirit that says, 'You work and toil and earn bread, and
I'll eat it.' No matter in what shape it comes, whether from the mouth
of a king who seeks to bestride the people of his own nation and live
by the fruit of their labor, or from one race of men as an apology for
enslaving another race [or other people, it is the same tyrannical
principle." One form of present day Hidden Slavery: most of America's
independent inventors lose their patent rights in the courts.
American Contract Law permits corporations to fight independent
inventors (and their inheritors) for up to 99 years -- as in one case
I found online -- until the independent side can no longer afford legal
action. (Irony: The Fourteenth Amendment to The Constitution to provide
civil rights to former slaves was interpreted by The Supreme Court to
make corporations legal! Are corporations our inventor plantations? And
do the banks know this, in denying loans to striving inventors?)
Today's Americans and Media mavens ignore the fact that America's most
famous inventor, Thomas Edison (1847-1931), spent
more money defending his patents in the courts than he made from
licenses. Today's Americans and Media mavens ignore past inventors
(especially women and African-Americans) who endowed our lives: they
work and toil while we eat their bread. Historians denigrate invention
by citing as the only "Industrial Revolution" what should be called
The Thermodynamic Industtrial Revolution, beginning in 1776 with
an effective steam engine, ignoring The Mechanical Industrial
Revolution of 12th-13th centuries when monks built thousands of wind
mills and water mills over Europe and Britain (cited in "The Medieval
Machine: The Industrial Revolution of the Middle Ages", J. Gimpel.
Also ignoring The Electrical Industrial Revolution<, beginning in 1880
when Thomas Edison wired the streets of NYC. Ignoring The Electronic
Industrial Revolution, beginning with 1920's radio stations. And
The Photonic-Nanotech Industrial Revolution, begun recently. Today's
Americans and Media mavens ignore Sam Slater (1768-1835), Father of
the American Industrial Revolution, whose inventiveness founded the
first major American industry: textiles. (Wikipedia has this.) A
1980's newspaper reported that the only kitchen convenience not
created by independent inventors in basement or garage was the
garbage disposal. A 1980's TV network program, "If Japan Can Do
It, Why Can't We?", reported many cases wherein American inventors
were ignored in America but paid and honored in other countries.
(Jack Kilby, American inventor of the microchip, was honored in
Japan for this decades before being honored here.) Have you heard
of Margaret Knight (1838-1914)? You've used her invention: the
box-type paper shopping bag. Knight built the machine making these,
and her original machine is in The Smithsonian Museum.
Google("women inventors+jonhays") to read of her and others. Today,
the only extant history of early American inventors, "Yankee Science
in the Making" (1958), was written by a Dutch-American mathematician,
Dirk Sruik (1894-2000). Many inventors listed by Struik invented guns
for the American Revolution and for developing our new country, but
America's two largest gun-firms are now owned by British interests,
a fact ignored by The National Rifle Association as well as by
Americans and Media mavens. also ignored are debts to scientists.
The TV screen and computer screen are consequences of the 1905
"Photo-Electric Effect Law" of Albert Einstein (1875-1955). Thanks,
Al!--Years ago I formulated a "find cuurent independent inventors
test". Each year I'd calculate the number of years since end of WWII.
Then go back the same number of years before WWII. I'd consult the
current "World Almanac" (popular with Americans) to see the number
of independent inventors listed. Usually, I'd find A DECLINE OF
ABOUT 400 PER CENT! If that were a comparable decline in newspapers
or TV station or motion picture theaters, you'd hear about it! Does
any one care about this hidden slavery and its effect upon our lives? |
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| Pendragon |
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| It would be interesting if you could broaden your question, to not only include the US but other countries as well. This is after all an international forum. But if your argument applies specifically to the US then you can ignore this. |
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| oberhaenslir |
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: The USA aren't America |
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Which America do you mean? North or South America?
The USA aren't America.
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| sak |
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:26 am Post subject: |
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A silmple answer is: NO.
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| Harold14370 |
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:48 am Post subject: Re: CAN AMERICA SURVIVE WITHOUT HIDDEN SLAVERY? |
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| jonhays wrote: |
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any one care about this hidden slavery and its effect upon our lives? |
You have thrown out a laundry list of facts about inventors, but you haven't really made much of a case that they are unfairly exploited. So what if gun companies are owned by the British? So what if there are fewer independent inventors? What's unfair about it? |
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| Ophiolite |
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:53 am Post subject: Re: CAN AMERICA SURVIVE WITHOUT HIDDEN SLAVERY? |
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I found some inaccuracies and distortions in your piece. These tend to detract from the validity of your thesis. Perhaps you could comment on them
| jonhays wrote: |
Today's Americans and Media mavens ignore the fact that America's most famous inventor, Thomas Edison (1847-1931), spent
more money defending his patents in the courts than he made from
licenses. |
I was always under the impression that the Edison's inventions were largely the product of the research group he established. The actual inventors of the products were just 'wage slaves'. Edison was a prime example of the corporate power you object to. Where am I mistaken?
| jonhays wrote: |
Historians denigrate invention
by citing as the only "Industrial Revolution" what should be called
The Thermodynamic Industtrial Revolution, beginning in 1776 with
an effective steam engine, ignoring The Mechanical Industrial
Revolution of 12th-13th centuries when monks built thousands of wind
mills and water mills over Europe and Britain (cited in "The Medieval
Machine: The Industrial Revolution of the Middle Ages", J. Gimpel.
Also ignoring The Electrical Industrial Revolution<, beginning in 1880
when Thomas Edison wired the streets of NYC. Ignoring The Electronic
Industrial Revolution, beginning with 1920's radio stations. And
The Photonic-Nanotech Industrial Revolution, begun recently. |
Really. I know of no serious historian who would disagree with the notion that there have been several 'revolutions'. The simplification into an 'Industrial Revolution' is exactly that - a simplification. The degree of division into mini-revolutions will depend upon the focus of the historian. If she is interested in the role of afro-americans in WW1 then your subdivisions have likely zero relevance.
| jonhays wrote: |
| Today's Americans and Media mavens ignore Sam Slater (1768-1835), Father of the American Industrial Revolution, whose inventiveness founded the first major American industry: textiles. (Wikipedia has this.) |
So he isn't beingignored, is he. Every country could make a list of individuals who contributed greatly to their country's past, but are now largely forgotten. This is not symptomatic of some grand malaise, but merely an indication of the passage of time.
| jonhays wrote: |
...America's two largest gun-firms are now owned by British interests,
a fact ignored by The National Rifle Association as well as by
Americans and Media mavens. |
What make you think that is important? There are plenty of businesses in the UK owned by American companies. I am a UK citizen, but have spent the bulk of my working life employed by an American company, working at one time or another in a dozen countries around the world. Why do you see this as a problem?
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| Does any one care about this hidden slavery and its effect upon our lives? |
You have not demonstrated that it is slavery in any form or fashion. All you have done is state that we (Or rather Americans and media Mavens. Isn't that a rather quaint term?) fail to recognise our inventors. I was amused that as an example of that failure you cite Albert Einstein, one of the most recognised names and faces on the planet. On balance I find your thesis poorly argued, full of inconsistencies and consequently unconvincing. _________________ The Universe is not only weirder than we imagine it is weirder than we can imagine. J.B.S.Haldane. |
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