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| Pendragon |
 Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:53 am Post subject: Article: US government interferes with climate science |
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According to a recent article in NewScientist the US government is interfering with climate scientists, concerning global warming.
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The Bush administration has again been charged with interfering with federal climate science, in order to underplay the significance of global warming.
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Documents "appear to portray a systematic White House effort to minimise the significance of climate change", said a memo released by the committee. |
Is there a broader discussion about this in the US? Does anyone know of examples of such interference in other countries? It sounds pretty serious to me.. |
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| jackson33 |
| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:54 am Post subject: |
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in the US, we have to major political parties and some fringe parties on both extremes.
James Hanson, is the highest ranking NASA member to argue mans cause for GW. since the accusation some 150 speech's have been made by him, on the subject, with no retribution or effort to silence.
the issue itself is not accepted in general, by the Republican party or the current administration. in efforts, or at least while NASA is trying to get additional funding, the Democratically controled Congress is being courted.
anything anti-Bush will get this funding increased.
my major arguments on the issue, GW is that the entire issue, are political motivated. in my country there are factions opposed to any big business, the capitalistic system, wealth of any kind and most of all free trade or prefer isolation from world affairs. these the real issues cannot be attacked in the political sense, since most are not opposed to many of the principles. some can and do get to these issues through GW, which after 30 years the mainstream educational efforts and scare tactics of some have influenced what we call the undecided voter. about 20 % of the total and can alter an election.
personally i feel the subject will only increase in velocity after the 08 election and in particular if a Democrat wins office. as with the War on Terror, which some feel were the cause for Congress now being controlled by Democrats, realize the cause or words were just that and no change will happen anytime soon. no Democrat can alter the basic economic principles of the entire country in 4 years and any effort would remove that person after the first term. a republican winner would be perceived as a copy of the current administration and whats happening to Bush, would just go on. |
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| scpg02 |
| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| a republican winner would be perceived as a copy of the current administration and whats happening to Bush, would just go on. |
Depends on which Republican wins.
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| Jeremyhfht |
| Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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This would all be fixed if you duality-partisan bastards would vote Libertarian. 
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| LydiaM |
| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject: Information Supressed with NDAs? |
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I worked on a government research project and the results were ultimately not released. Neither myself, nor my project lead JD Reynvaan were or are allowed (under the NDA we signed) to make public any of the results of our research independently. This means that if the agency we were working with doesn't release the data themselves, our research will not be publicized.
We were told that our project had been classified for national security reasons, but we were never told what those reasons were.
I wonder how much research data gets suppressed utilizing NDA terms and arbitrary classifications? |
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| Bunbury |
| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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This is old news. The Bush White House tried to stifle Jim Hansen and other scientists quite some time ago (forget exactly when), substituting ideology for science. I didn't realize the hearings were still going on. Fortunately Bush will soon be gone and all the potential replacements accept the science of global warming, including the Republican John McCain.
Hansen's been in the news again recently for his new calculation of long term climate sensitivity. He seems to be looking at the hundreds of years perspective, and trying to include longer term feedbacks, and other climate scientists are sort of scratching their heads. Basically we don't need to look very far ahead, or to include the highly uncertain effects of slower feedbacks, to know that the world will be very different for our grandchildren. Even the oil companies know this, and are making expensive design changes to cope with rising sea levels and higher ambient temperatures. |
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| Harold14370 |
| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:06 am Post subject: |
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No use getting spun up over this article.
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| In a continuing investigation, the US House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform held its second hearing on the issue on Monday. Documents "appear to portray a systematic White House effort to minimise the significance of climate change", said a memo released by the committee. |
The US house committee is just a partisan group trying to score political points. Ignore whatever comes out of that committee. |
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