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| Hanuka |
 Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: Accepting all religions... |
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I was thinking...
If I'll accept all the religions that we have todays and had in the past,
And on top of this be a pretty good matey...
When my time comes, will I have a sure ticket to h4v3n? 
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| prasit |
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Unfortunately, most religions don't want to have peers. If you accept one you automatically reject the others.
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition |
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Not so, observe Ghandi for example.
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| Hanuka |
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I've seen a movie about him; the only thing I remember is him getting shot...
Can ya enlighten me about what he stood for?? plz??
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition |
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Look yourself and you'll see more easily.
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| Hanuka |
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Gotcha` 
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition |
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El Oh El.
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| Scifor Refugee |
| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Accepting all religions... |
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| Hanuka wrote: |
I was thinking...
If I'll accept all the religions that we have todays and had in the past,
And on top of this be a pretty good matey...
When my time comes, will I have a sure ticket to h4v3n? |
Since most religions have a rule that you aren't supposed to believe in any other gods or religions, it would be impossible to follow them all at the same time - simply accepting one would automatically break the rules of many others. |
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| prasit |
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| Unfortunately, most religions don't want to have peers. If you accept one you automatically reject the others. |
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| Not so, observe Ghandi for example. |
Please note that I said MOST, not ALL.
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition |
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Oh yeah, sorry about that. Well theres an example there anyway for not the most.
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Not so, observe Ghandi for example.[quote]
Ghandi was a Hindu, through and through, he knew alot about other religions but was a hindu |
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| 425 Chaotic Requisition |
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He was a Hindu. But he was also a Christian, and a Muslim and a Buddhist and Jew.
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What does it mean to "accept" a religion?
You either believe in something or you don't.
Are you telling me that, on a whim, you can simply snap your fingers and change what you truly believe?
I can tell people I believe in Santa Claus all I want but that won't change the fact that I really don't. |
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| KALSTER |
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Welcome back Neutrino 
I don't really understand how one can belong to so many different religions as you say Ghandi did 425CR? I mean they aren't exactly compatible with each other.
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| mitchellmckain |
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I don't really understand how one can belong to so many different religions as you say Ghandi did 425CR? I mean they aren't exactly compatible with each other. |
Yes and no.
My answer is yes (they are compatable) because the problem is exactly what do you mean when you say that someone is one is a Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or Jew, though this last is particularly hard to swallow. Again there is the question of how any one of these reacts to other religious beliefs, and so without the anti-theistic elements of these religions, there can be some degree of truth to this claim of Ghandi. Hinduism, in particular, is such an umbrella over a diversity of religious thought with no exclusivity, that besides the purely cultural elements of Hinduism, being Hindu presents nearly no contradiction to being any of these others as well. This therefore suggests that Ghandi's claim was a claim that was quite Hindu in character, though I would tend to call it being pluralistic with the Hindu cultural elements removed.
Now excluding both Hindu and Jewish as too cultural (as opposed to doctrinal) in their identification, my answer is also no (they are not compatable) because embracing a pluralistic viewpoint certainly means that there is some basis to suggesting that the person is to some degree not a Christian, Muslim or Buddhist. For this reason, my pluralistic ideas along with my rejection of many traditional ideas of Christianity provides ample reasons for many to question whether I should be called a Christian, even though I solidly identify myself as Christian and not the least bit muslim or buddhist, let alone hindu or jewish. I have often said that religion is 90-99% language, with many of the aribitrary characteristics of language but requiring one to stick to the rules of one language in particular in order to communicate (or even think) coherently.
At the recent Vinyard conference I even suggested that I should be considered my church's resident secular humanist, and even said that I might be considered half atheist. That may be partly tongue in cheek, but not completely, because regardless of what position on something I may take I do prefer to maintain the ability to see thinks from other perspectives.
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